# Meeting Transcription

  Meeting started: 11/2/2026, 9:09:13 AM
  Duration: 100 minutes
  Participants: Aaron Tushabe, Dansturn Kimbowa, Hillary Arinda

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    ## Highlights

    > 08:28 Aaron Tushabe: Has expecting him tonight with our team?
> 11:44 Aaron Tushabe: it fondant issue with
> 18:14 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, but we need customers in it customers. I think as Thomas always survey But this one. Yeah, otherwise, I think we could we are at risk of remaining in a lot of
> 27:08 Aaron Tushabe: huh, but why wait where they having this issue for them because they have a
> 29:44 Aaron Tushabe: organizations that are somewhat non-profit these things just go by like B or you is running a generator. No one is feeling that pain because there's the owner is not so I think I'm also trying to overlay. If worship. Harvest is operated more like there are people who almost stand in a position of business owners and they're like both. I feel that pain of what's going on there. It's not an issue of the funds are there guys. Don't worry.
> 59:58 Aaron Tushabe: been transcribed what around customers and strategy for for acquiring more of them. I think we just recognize I have recognized that please customer conversations significantly go better in person and they are also for a lot of observation and listening so that we can build a good foundation for a long time relationship similar to what we have so I P was for dance stand to take lead on these tomorrow. He has a check-in with what she published and I'm going to try
> 01:00:47 Aaron Tushabe: and schedule a camper club for him before the end of this week. But our goal is for him to do a customer visit every week to to yeah evaluate
> 01:03:29 Hillary Arinda: then. There is solar utility battery and then there is solar. before. I think until recently it was in solar utility solar utility what battery the problems with that is that. You don't get the best from. the panels in that well, we had to issues one but the first one if you quickly where are the battery was charging between midnight and And six a.m. Of course that was the first win. We had to stop that because if you let the battery charge during that time when you miss out during the so we close that and I think we only let it charge to system is still learning the current configuration. I think it only charges for listening but a minute just to get her for any outages that may come in that time because you know during picket because all the way to say Sub-Zero not sub Zero subtitude and yeah and The risk with that is in case power goes off and you have nothing to cater for
> 01:08:42 Hillary Arinda: that and then the greed comes in when the batteries at zero. Of course that comes with the risk so we are running it on the trial of one week to see how it how it impacts reliability, but that's the best setup for maximum
> 01:09:22 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, how about the issue of panels output being very far from?
> 01:26:14 Aaron Tushabe: But yeah can be an experiment anyway, if if we ever turns out to be important
> 01:29:32 Aaron Tushabe: It's very negligible they also have I get maybe because they're small users they entirely for like two months there and I had to reach out to them and ask them. Did you buy more plants and that I know I have only the Makers around or it's Uh so if guys kids went back from back to boarding school. I use drops back or just changes in them can show a big changing in use it that I think usage as due
> 01:37:07 Aaron Tushabe: chessing yeah following up about add them then assign you as the point of
> 01:38:37 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, no special one, but because of your grace Lord we are here and we are thankful for that word. We also thank you for this milestone of finally heating phase 3 for nasana. It's been hey January of almost more than ayanna O Lord that we thank you for every step along the way and we are excited to see other customers go through this journey and become profitable not just financially but also for in other ways for the customers load achieving reliable power load. Thank you again for Mr Dream and myself Lord thank you for giving us this vision Lord we pray Lord that will continue to adding it faithfully submit all our plans this week to you

  ## Transcript

  00:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: etc
00:01 Aaron Tushabe: Good reminder to you. I do not have been you. hey
00:19 Dansturn Kimbowa: Just starting years.
00:22 Aaron Tushabe: stand up and
00:30 Dansturn Kimbowa: And the 32 dawaka, hello.
00:37 Aaron Tushabe: To go to see a 15 here because as beginning to doubt the power of the sun.
00:40 Dansturn Kimbowa: busy it does I think I did but on all
01:03 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, it's good. It's good tattoos which.
01:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: What's you?
01:11 Aaron Tushabe: okay Am I looking at here? even in use each day battery in this LP
01:26 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay
01:27 Aaron Tushabe: okay so Monday What missing for me guys? I was looking forward two way slow sand. But this doesn't tell me what time charging this charging started. What this is time this? This thing? Is that this column?
01:59 Dansturn Kimbowa: Just the acting empty.
02:04 Aaron Tushabe: a
02:04 Dansturn Kimbowa: Here in this year, did they ever get to share that article by kept promising but?
02:11 Aaron Tushabe: no
02:12 Dansturn Kimbowa: Not sharing.
02:14 Aaron Tushabe: Saying when it says evening this window okay, it's but it doesn't say at what
02:19 Dansturn Kimbowa: yeah
02:20 Aaron Tushabe: At the action item, was you will share it this week.
02:25 Dansturn Kimbowa: Share it because it is quite. But quite a good one.
02:40 Aaron Tushabe: Like it has been consistently starting at 6 the moment 6 hits this charging. how it compares
02:44 Aaron Tushabe: Hi, I'm transcribing this call with my Tactiq AI Extension. https://tactiq.io/r/transcribing
02:48 Aaron Tushabe: Is just lean also known as the ravango? Robo yes, I found one here from team reports. I don't know if it is there.
03:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: That's it. Why we have blackouts and what you this year is doing about it. Is that they take? I'm going to switch off my videos sometime. But we can still continue working.
03:28 Aaron Tushabe: one it seems to say that but Yeah, yeah, you're still seeing yourself having customers from the greatest. it's fairly.
03:49 Dansturn Kimbowa: It's great.
03:57 Aaron Tushabe: okay It might be the one. Yeah, okay, just sent out. I think only task of managed to touch was invoicing
04:19 Dansturn Kimbowa: yeah
04:25 Aaron Tushabe: we are now invoicing out of our own system.
04:29 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay Did we invoiced for last month?
04:37 Aaron Tushabe: For last month yeah.
04:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: Oh, how the how was the margins looking?
04:43 Aaron Tushabe: refill before. It gets that's my assumption anymore, but needs to be problem on.
04:51 Dansturn Kimbowa: The people you must be having the price of head now.
04:58 Aaron Tushabe: Hmm. So let's maybe let's go on Saturday here. What exactly happened here.
04:59 Dansturn Kimbowa: To you this year, how much is it?
05:04 Aaron Tushabe: But but this from the grid when did this happen I guess what I'm missing is the time time of use.
05:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: Called the one they provide.
05:14 Aaron Tushabe: provided to M the content to a Like I want to to seek to see where and this is what I was seeing in.
05:24 Dansturn Kimbowa: the first first okay That's okay.
05:32 Aaron Tushabe: I'm sure they've updated a bit for. Fuel under all these things cause DSL stand we got one. No, I mean before my family this one here you see this graph that shows a
05:55 Dansturn Kimbowa: You get that from the udc website.
05:59 Aaron Tushabe: time. our account udcl account Yes, yes, but yeah, but but so now this is battery charging. Yes, it seems to be down to. That seemed like the behavior we had seen that really. There's a lot of usage another website I had this exactly what I was meaning yes. Yeah, so at six seats that's dropping They are sight seems to have. drop in.
07:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: you see
07:12 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, I wanted to yeah. This is the definitely different from what I had seen at some point just look like and I think maybe it's because we're trying to keep
07:28 Dansturn Kimbowa: Asked my friend chat here. But it doesn't seem to give me.
07:38 Aaron Tushabe: just seemed like that thing would hardly take take them through one hardly. And then yeah. that it can easily take them through six hours.
08:01 Dansturn Kimbowa: a coffee machine in our Village
08:07 Aaron Tushabe: a
08:26 Dansturn Kimbowa: He's already the joining us.
08:28 Aaron Tushabe: Has expecting him tonight with our team?
08:34 Aaron Tushabe: And we just see as in. Mmm. That's it.
08:45 Dansturn Kimbowa: in India
08:47 Aaron Tushabe: now the team equilibriates within the US Yeah, I think it's okay. invoices from for green water.
09:13 Dansturn Kimbowa: from Esther
09:16 Aaron Tushabe: don't know I take power is expensive so I am at anyway. We are still for a hundred percent abilities. Let's not mess with the people. Your owner's capital and NFC side. We get every day. That's not a bad job. Not oh no, no wait. This is since that I say. Across all those invoices. yeah so I can guess we need to just loop esta in let her know if that were going in that Would be sweet okay.
10:13 Aaron Tushabe: receipts Yeah, and then decide we record that we've received 4.9 M from you and stay
10:16 Dansturn Kimbowa: Remove that.
10:22 Aaron Tushabe: tuned here.
10:24 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay
10:26 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, this this my hotel for sure. I don't know that we are and we had a solid good month of battery arbitrage only. Yeah, we can. for like So I still tweaking. foot too yeah, but now it November is going to be mixed up with the solar here Should we pull it apart right now and see?
11:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: oh rubble, because that's kind of like a friendly discussion but
11:15 Aaron Tushabe: and even October so that came in like in the last week so
11:22 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, I think. By the way, nothing really major. It's just that of course you this year is performing very but here action at greenwater every day and I added experienced
11:37 Aaron Tushabe: allowed.
11:41 Dansturn Kimbowa: it because I was moving. But again that between so it keeps going and coming going and let it goes like 5
11:44 Aaron Tushabe: it fondant issue with
11:52 Dansturn Kimbowa: minutes, then it comes back then it goes like 14 then it.
11:55 Aaron Tushabe: It was and it was an able. Yeah, I wasn't about auto generate the bill the first time but it fixed it and then yeah apart from going on because they get instructions to. Yes, or finally. I only sent the bill like an hour. I go so yeah, so far. She's
12:14 Dansturn Kimbowa: years ago against
12:23 Aaron Tushabe: You're kidding. Oh yeah serious. database are in like two different regions. gotten that we had gotten info from it technician down. There are not very senior person that since udcl2 cover they get random instructions to just mess don't know but it's like the Super Bass is in Mumbai but this The application itself always in Washington DC a return of vaso in Washington so I'm trying to to include suggested some fixes so of us to go ahead and throw throw some PRS I will send you away for review. have you you haven't had this one.
13:15 Dansturn Kimbowa: I I don't want that drone to come for me. I didn't I deny any kind of involvement that information yeah, but but apparently there was a bit of
13:29 Aaron Tushabe: USA
13:33 Dansturn Kimbowa: Sabotage here. With these years.
13:37 Aaron Tushabe: Does she also Confess the same in the article?
13:41 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, no of course she the article is about money. They didn't have enough investment the infrastructure is overloaded. But yeah, they want. yeah, so
14:01 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, so yes, maybe lends up coming on 6th. Yeah, so yeah.
14:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, she.
14:06 Aaron Tushabe: how.
14:08 Dansturn Kimbowa: yeah, she whatever she
14:14 Aaron Tushabe: she
14:14 Dansturn Kimbowa: She tells them that we are going to upgrade some substation. You're going to
14:20 Aaron Tushabe: But there's no money.
14:23 Dansturn Kimbowa: upgrade some lines. She actually didn't say whether it was money or not.
14:27 Aaron Tushabe: have variables of there's a time. What's this some whatever guy was exceeding
14:29 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay in the articles you say there was no money at the okay. The Investment was low eh.
14:34 Aaron Tushabe: charging devices.
14:36 Dansturn Kimbowa: But no she didn't say husband. They come or he doesn't come we don't know.
14:40 Aaron Tushabe: something so those variables also and because they are just too big main users
14:42 Dansturn Kimbowa: But left the promise that there are some substations that they are going to upgrade and deploying teams.
14:51 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, so no. I haven't seen. I'm seeing that the ability still under 600. So it looks normal looks like a normal mat. It's not very. monitor. very unique It's not Yeah doesn't feel and this if I can log into MBE and they show you it's very cool. yeah, it is disappointing but
15:33 Dansturn Kimbowa: right
15:33 Aaron Tushabe: Itaring and being in that's like the team was good. Crap this thing is as this. give me Good to see view history. I'm almost sure this. Are you able to login to your mbec?
16:09 Dansturn Kimbowa: nothing anyway yeah
16:19 Aaron Tushabe: okay
16:20 Dansturn Kimbowa: Shall we shall be okay? I'm sure. as I said
16:26 Aaron Tushabe: If you my that building landlordman.
16:32 Dansturn Kimbowa: one
16:33 Aaron Tushabe: with a Prayer
16:38 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, I know that.
16:41 Aaron Tushabe: Hey, I'm not going to miss this application and now it logs in his juice. Let's see as you can see. The month here where holy day makers were around.
16:51 Dansturn Kimbowa: You know we are not actually the official they renting.
16:56 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes, but yeah.
16:56 Dansturn Kimbowa: so we are using the
17:00 Aaron Tushabe: Wait that guy is also the landlord. I thought he was he was only the doing his But I think battery seat I also increase the service charge.
17:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: Building as well.
17:19 Aaron Tushabe: And then I think I was asking if you knew just yoke up you because bill but that a unit yes submittering going on their committers. There is something yeah, so yeah. We officially entered seven hundreds almost by 100 units.
17:38 Dansturn Kimbowa: like this, what if we put a Is a generator don't there but we never really use it?
17:54 Aaron Tushabe: that is data isn't been moved over it does exist in any MS just doesn't exist in the
18:08 Dansturn Kimbowa: I thinking of who the communicate with the
18:14 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, but we need customers in it customers. I think as Thomas always survey But this one. Yeah, otherwise, I think we could we are at risk of remaining in a lot of
18:33 Aaron Tushabe: There's no October 1 November 1st is October 1st to. stanbic versus people who would be willing to invest their own money. You know 21st year that one is the new first new building period that's in MGM customer who's spending more than 2 million shillings. 14 years So it feels like those conversations are going slowly so I had some it's going yes, 700 years a bit steady but
19:19 Dansturn Kimbowa: that we can do to
19:21 Aaron Tushabe: can begin attacking and yeah see where they are and if they're ready so I would because this Is at least what time is? running the hospital a clinic sort. So at least four times seven hundred. Yeah, we're looking at someone who's doing at least two megat to two megawatt 2.5 to point eight megawatt hours per month. I guess a customers who are going to get long-term relationships out of that. As it your sister-in-law.
20:16 Aaron Tushabe: understand where they are because I have experienced a challenge that when they relationship is not solid if we get hiccups in the middle. There's a delay in she's not the one who's operating the facility who operates the Costs there and example is that because for seziwa having solid relationship when tenants were being difficult and all the landlord was doing what they could do to figure out how to move this thing forward because they were boating.
20:56 Aaron Tushabe: So, I think I have I appreciated they are white it helped to say yes to someone where we felt like the relationship was was solid so that we can rely on it to to manage the the project and to continue growing the inevitably come up so I I think that's how I want I want us to also approached we. You have a relationship with them and more than sell them this thing. Even just understanding where they are like at the time. I approaches you were.
21:45 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, they were frustrated with the power outages that a number of them like the the landlord had gotten a smaller panel. They are on their roof that has had with small invertise there like there was the timing was was. they were they they had a need for it and I also want to understand where worship harvest is I think for them. They definitely anticipated this problem. That's why they have a generator in place. Look from outside Looking In like it's it might be good.
22:27 Aaron Tushabe: If they are frustrated or they are feeling the cost of the generator fuel and I'm presenting something but I can also see why it might not be good timing. I think I would like us to sniff out reasons why the timing might not be good and be aware of that so that we are not in a situation where we are pushing in. Direction and not having the picture of yeah one reason. I might see timing
22:54 Dansturn Kimbowa: feedback
22:58 Aaron Tushabe: issues is maybe the level of activity. That's been going on in the building with that those top apartments being completed. I don't know how much strain to operations that has caused for them the other thing was what I saw on the roof the leakages yeah like I don't know what what pain that left in the in the leadership whatever to have maybe brought on somebody to do a roof and a few years. I don't know how long it took they are picking up leakages and they are having to either call them back or So that was a feels like I think we should pay attention to and and yeah listen how how they are about that. Yeah.
23:57 Aaron Tushabe: But I don't know what else could might make timing not not right and I think in the meeting. I want us to be more open to hearing okay. This is where we are. We think looking outside. We think your your ready for this as much as you could afford a generator you spending the million shillings every Sunday and and this product. Yes, I also think about an entity like a church one that values like long term sustainability for them so even communicating.
24:37 Aaron Tushabe: Like this is a agreed that the chart could own eventually it's not a thing that will perpetually be provided by by an external company so maybe for the first 10 five to 15 years. This is what selling you power but in that time period you eventually become your asset and we help operate it and you don't have to pay for power for me so I think that might be of interest to them, but it might also not be based on other information. I don't have so I don't know I think where I'm seeing is that how do we do molec in this initial organizations then? Yeah here the questions find out where the why they're asking the questions. They're ask.
25:39 Aaron Tushabe: think because you're in this position where you're both an inside and maybe they are conversations.
25:45 Dansturn Kimbowa: Money inside that on both on both on both.
25:50 Aaron Tushabe: They are conversations you might have like already been having with them or already have context on that might yeah. Lead you to skip some of the questions. I would ask and I think that's okay. I think you can after that whatever you just catch me and mystery in the App of like this. This is the other context you need to be aware of why they would like to delay this by whatever or why they have no interest in ever owning it and they're happy if someone else or is operates this. Oh, I are saying I had not to wear anyone touching the roof or something like that. Yeah.
26:38 Aaron Tushabe: But that's why I am with them, but um where where are you in terms of how ready you think they are.
26:46 Dansturn Kimbowa: So I identified some pain points that they had one was.
26:51 Aaron Tushabe: okay
26:58 Dansturn Kimbowa: really reliable Yeah, the reason need for reliable.
27:02 Aaron Tushabe: That is the measure national problem. They are not unique they are not nuclear
27:07 Dansturn Kimbowa: yeah
27:08 Aaron Tushabe: huh, but why wait where they having this issue for them because they have a
27:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: so
27:15 Aaron Tushabe: generator.
27:17 Dansturn Kimbowa: Now you see the generator. So let me give an example of their apartment.
27:24 Aaron Tushabe: hmm Okay is that what they actually called apartment or they are called something
27:28 Dansturn Kimbowa: So they attend our partners.
27:32 Aaron Tushabe: else hotels. They call them apartment okay.
27:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: apartment there And there may be at anyone time. They may be like maybe 40% occupancy.
27:48 Aaron Tushabe: okay
27:50 Dansturn Kimbowa: now if electricity goes off at less than a
27:58 Aaron Tushabe: okay
28:01 Dansturn Kimbowa: They would have to run the generator okay, maybe like this, but yeah still because apostle also stays on the apartment. So they will have to run the generator. Which is a 200 kVA machine? to power for a partners
28:24 Aaron Tushabe: okay
28:27 Dansturn Kimbowa: Now they have over votages. Now I'm saying this.
28:34 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, they would have to run it to power for apartment. They have that that
28:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes.
28:40 Aaron Tushabe: isolation. They would have to run it to power the whole build.
28:42 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, no the whole building but to serve for a yeah. They have to power the whole
28:44 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, they have to power. Because yes, they have to part.
28:49 Dansturn Kimbowa: building but only four people a but only four apartments are using.
28:52 Aaron Tushabe: Yes here. okay Okay, they don't have a problem. Is that something they have a
28:58 Dansturn Kimbowa: the essentially
29:02 Aaron Tushabe: that's okay. No.
29:03 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, because then they efficiency is very I mean you have to put on the generator for four people yet it can run a whole building.
29:15 Aaron Tushabe: That's so again how the pain they are feeling there is that this is a very expensive backup.
29:21 Dansturn Kimbowa: a expensive various a very expensive
29:23 Aaron Tushabe: how do they feel it really how do you feel that when it's is it on the Just that knowledge or it comes up in the budget and the weekly when someone is like I need another to M for generate a few l or something like where is the
29:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah it.
29:38 Aaron Tushabe: pain actually being felt? No I ask because there's an assumption that
29:40 Dansturn Kimbowa: It comes up with the budget hmm.
29:44 Aaron Tushabe: organizations that are somewhat non-profit these things just go by like B or you is running a generator. No one is feeling that pain because there's the owner is not so I think I'm also trying to overlay. If worship. Harvest is operated more like there are people who almost stand in a position of business owners and they're like both. I feel that pain of what's going on there. It's not an issue of the funds are there guys. Don't worry.
30:14 Dansturn Kimbowa: No definitely they feel the pitch.
30:16 Aaron Tushabe: For them they feel it.
30:17 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, because for example so this is like the practical real vertical thing that happened so when when Kara goes off or when they have those who are voltages. Yeah. And then you know maybe lights are flickering or whatever it is, they cannot be generator but the quickly want to look for it will make who will come and maybe go and turn on the top change at the transformer or whatever it is.
30:52 Dansturn Kimbowa: So they would call me and tell me boss. I don't know what's up with the lights
30:54 Aaron Tushabe: mmm
30:57 Dansturn Kimbowa: but since the voltages are funny that generator has automatically switched on.
31:05 Aaron Tushabe: mmm
31:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: Now it has switched on but I am burning after can you find for me a meme again quickly who can comments.
31:14 Aaron Tushabe: Who's who's who's calling you to tell you that the operations manager also.
31:18 Dansturn Kimbowa: if yeah the facilities manager
31:21 Aaron Tushabe: facilities these guys the full-time role Guy
31:24 Dansturn Kimbowa: a Yeah, actually stays in the church.
31:31 Aaron Tushabe: I didn't know they had voltage problems.
31:34 Dansturn Kimbowa: They have voltage issues as well.
31:38 Aaron Tushabe: And green water has troubleshooted those voltage issues. They are down their upstream.
31:43 Dansturn Kimbowa: You know yeah, they upstream the upstream yeah abstract. because now there are many chapati Street Rolex guys. So it comes to around 637 guys are hooky.
32:04 Aaron Tushabe: cooking on messenger as a I'm here to meet the chapati guy. Who's he has a light bulb and his kachaka
32:16 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, yeah, but the amendment and they like and it's a strong light. It's maybe
32:16 Aaron Tushabe: store.
32:25 Dansturn Kimbowa: 200 watts or something so the many and then but they also people who would say
32:27 Aaron Tushabe: okay
32:31 Dansturn Kimbowa: chips.
32:33 Aaron Tushabe: yes, yes deprived for
32:34 Dansturn Kimbowa: That's chips machine is they got deep fry me to be like maybe 2000 watts?
32:48 Aaron Tushabe: Instance you're the one either one who put in the application for that meter.
32:53 Dansturn Kimbowa: Forest
32:54 Aaron Tushabe: a
32:56 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, I found the meter.
33:00 Aaron Tushabe: Wondering if ten dot towards really sized correct.
33:04 Dansturn Kimbowa: I don't think I don't think there's anyone who was sizing at that moment.
33:10 Aaron Tushabe: Assuming the button, who did the electricals on that building had to size.
33:19 Dansturn Kimbowa: I don't but yeah anyway, but yeah, we can actually get 10.23 then.
33:24 Aaron Tushabe: a okay 20 you have to go to 20 is so the attend 1010 has 0.1 and 0.2. Then you move on to the next t which is 20.
33:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, because I feel like this actually potential for a 20.
33:46 Aaron Tushabe: mmm That might be the first phase of remediation. We got to because I think read so if pointed out that's a really good one. They have voltage issues and right now. They are just fixing them by either stepping in with a generator and swallowing the cost or hasling a usbcl guide to tap somewhere and press somewhere but things to get resolved. Oh wait for them to get resolved after eleven pm or
34:13 Dansturn Kimbowa: It's actually.
34:17 Aaron Tushabe: whatever time. Everything is becomes stable okay mmm. okay
34:25 Dansturn Kimbowa: Then yeah then. They have so that is one of course the spending as I told you they spent probably close to three.
34:46 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
34:48 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay, maybe not three in this that's 9900 of you and then made maybe what maybe
34:53 Aaron Tushabe: or sand
34:55 Dansturn Kimbowa: 500k. of
35:01 Aaron Tushabe: oh, you're trying to
35:02 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, covers what two million or six million?
35:05 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, it's they are not on your six million.
35:09 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay six million, so if you split it by four weeks, that's like what 1.5. Per week so 1.5 + 900k or one meter. That's about 2.5 m every week, so that is
35:24 Aaron Tushabe: a week
35:28 Dansturn Kimbowa: also pain point.
35:30 Aaron Tushabe: I don't think the five the one point five per week is a pain point I that would gladly accept as the cost of power. No, that's what power costs or is
35:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: hmm
35:40 Aaron Tushabe: on what stands out is that if we are paying 1.5 the whole week. How can we pay a million shillings on just one day. And family so that that is what I'm picturing is what could stand out as yeah really we're paying at least four times the amount for power on Sundays but it feels like that's the cost of reliable power for them right now. okay okay
36:08 Dansturn Kimbowa: Then there are the issued be that they would not want to focus. an upfront capital expenditure Of yeah 15 million of whatever it is.
36:27 Aaron Tushabe: Why why do you think they wouldn't want to to f*** it out?
36:31 Dansturn Kimbowa: because it's a church the church collects the revenue stream of the
36:36 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
36:36 Dansturn Kimbowa: that it collects money recently? And if you have collected 100 million today, you're not sure correct another 100. You may have collected that because it is salary week. And everyone has brought time.
36:54 Aaron Tushabe: Okay okay, um yeah, I yeah. I don't think that's going to be it shows top for us
36:54 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, so yeah.
37:00 Aaron Tushabe: because that is entire value proposition of assist you know you don't f*** out a capital costs. Yes, so yeah, maybe.
37:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: So I I think that would be yeah, it would be. Something that and also the fact that we can share that it's a data-driven charge.
37:27 Aaron Tushabe: Hmm. They value them.
37:28 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes, we do. We do about six reports every and they just endorsed chat GPT To do for us our report so you just put in your numbers then it tells you okay. This is how your performing as a church. These are the areas to improve ET
37:47 Aaron Tushabe: They get it they get whatever so if I even if we were to yeah to just show them
37:47 Dansturn Kimbowa: c so
37:52 Aaron Tushabe: how they are consuming where the outages are what causes outed was it voltage
37:52 Dansturn Kimbowa: exactly
37:57 Aaron Tushabe: was it completely power off the will appreciate that okay?
37:59 Dansturn Kimbowa: Exactly, so if yeah, so if we just if we tell them okay give us a chance and we share data with you. So that yeah, so that there is data actually coming up here. We talk from there.
38:13 Aaron Tushabe: We talk from there.
38:16 Dansturn Kimbowa: You don't have to buy our idea now. Let us just collect the data and share the data with you and then you can never conversation actually that was I was
38:25 Aaron Tushabe: okay
38:26 Dansturn Kimbowa: thinking that might be my first pitch studying also. I just need you. I'm just
38:29 Aaron Tushabe: I think that is a very good.
38:32 Dansturn Kimbowa: need you to give me permission. I will come with my infrastructure and I connect data and I will share with you this data. Maybe of course you would email me for how long until he may be up to the end of the year.
38:46 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes, but really as early you were going to have weekly reports.
38:47 Dansturn Kimbowa: something Yes, I can give you weekly reports.
38:51 Aaron Tushabe: Yes clear reports, but I need a larger window to get confidence that this wasn't just an abnormal week and established patterns in the issues issues were seeing.
38:57 Dansturn Kimbowa: yeah Exactly, yeah. And then yeah and then I'm able to then propose to use solution that is better.
39:15 Aaron Tushabe: Okay yeah, so that's what yes, I'm bias. I'd like in this meeting all is it one on one with you and apostle or he's there
39:20 Dansturn Kimbowa: yeah, so that's
39:26 Aaron Tushabe: Molly facilities manager limo team operations whatever what does that?
39:31 Dansturn Kimbowa: So so definitely definitely eventually will have to help me over to the facilities guy and the chief architect project the project management. I'm not sure if they'll be in the meeting. Whatever booked I've booked a meeting with him.
39:49 Aaron Tushabe: okay
39:53 Dansturn Kimbowa: Personally, I have shared with the other guys the facilities manager and the other people but I think if I get a go ahead from him. That okay guys give this
40:01 Aaron Tushabe: okay
40:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: guy an opportunity to. Do something all the others will just be formalities?
40:10 Aaron Tushabe: hmm okay um
40:15 Dansturn Kimbowa: yeah
40:18 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, the the other angle is has been in the past somebody like this. We would do an energy audit.
40:27 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes, we would do an energy on it.
40:31 Aaron Tushabe: and then And then what I would do good because you're seeing these voltage issues and you
40:35 Dansturn Kimbowa: No fun.
40:42 Aaron Tushabe: recommending a generator imagine. They didn't have the generate. I just then saying generator. Are you saying? Let's get udcl to try and fix this upstream issues.
40:51 Dansturn Kimbowa: you see even if No, no you fix the country that you this year. Oh, do this year to Solutions will be temporary. you get what is permanent maybe I would ask now they brought the chief of night
41:11 Aaron Tushabe: The voltage issues, you haven't seen udcl resolve a customers voltage issues
41:12 Dansturn Kimbowa: Frank
41:15 Aaron Tushabe: before yes, at least if my if my my facilities not changing it's capacity every
41:17 Dansturn Kimbowa: permanently
41:26 Aaron Tushabe: month and I am still really drawing the same you can't sort me out and and I am
41:30 Dansturn Kimbowa: You see the voltages the the voltages are affected by.
41:34 Aaron Tushabe: happy for five years.
41:42 Dansturn Kimbowa: I don't know if you get it because once because you you have this big pool where you know where you are. You are putting from and they are too variables current and voltage current and voltage now when people are drawing more. they will about switch off my video for talking. So when whatever when people are when when People are when you're going towards then you voltages people who are sometimes the voltage is affected by switching.
42:33 Dansturn Kimbowa: when a big load switches off somewhere, it's like usually the analogy they give us that like if you are being running with a heavy but
42:42 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
42:43 Dansturn Kimbowa: Then they somebody just picks it from your back. You will increase speed. So over here dumps everybody so there are so many other variables that.
43:10 Aaron Tushabe: I still feel like it should be someone's job somewhat udcl to know that these things are going to happen and put I don't know some something to balance like when it drops we shouldn't suddenly have voltages varying like someone should persist that load for I don't know let it drop over a period of 30 minutes and let it drop sudden. But maybe these are the things that don't exist like yeah, they rely on the
43:35 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes. no
43:40 Aaron Tushabe: network to what to self to self normalized.
43:44 Dansturn Kimbowa: It to self heal, actually today was reading something and they called itself healing makeup anyway.
43:53 Aaron Tushabe: But what's so feeling mechanism? Do you know over at uid here? What self?
43:59 Dansturn Kimbowa: So ideally ideally I think like in the US you guys get to like. To your house.
44:07 Aaron Tushabe: I don't know I don't know kwanga.
44:09 Dansturn Kimbowa: to solids I think you should because what happens if I ideally that if if no of course that becomes a bit expensive. whatever for the for the network to give like to Solutions
44:37 Aaron Tushabe: Have a redundant redundant line.
44:41 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes, so that when such a thing happens, then it can just switch to this other line and they can be some voltage detectors that you. The Solutions will be giving would be by a stabilizer. Because how they built in the night fracture and that's the solution.
45:16 Aaron Tushabe: They brought in a night Frank was the one that did the energy audit hmm.
45:22 Dansturn Kimbowa: One of the church members is the end of nature. properties
45:32 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes.
45:34 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes, so she was like stabilizers.
45:53 Aaron Tushabe: Basically, they just came to yeah. You need to spend more money to to get reliable power yeah, and the next stabilizer will also come with its efficiencies. So you end up paying more because you it's going to lose some power as as it stabilizes it okay. Okay, so these these are existing solution. I I asked because I think I we need to be aware of them when people because the other thing I've seen customers delay. Is that when you put a proposal in front of them? They want to find out? What are the options the market offers? Before they say yes, they want to feel like this. This is one option. I have I know about three others and this looks like the good deal. So to even have that
46:43 Dansturn Kimbowa: it's the
46:44 Aaron Tushabe: available and let them know the other Solutions that exist are stabilizers. This is what this would cost you you could you know but give them a bit of a picture of these are known things in the market. Could also help this is why we think the solution is better. Yeah, but yeah, I know when you mention it. I've remembered even the charger. Ended up in a stabilizer.
47:19 Dansturn Kimbowa: stabilizer like Now you you would ask yourself and of course I'm not so. This negot I mean I cut exactly yeah, that's what you're but.
47:43 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes, that's what a technical team came back to and told that this is the cost of reliable Power please put it on it will end up in your invoices to the customers. We manage. It's not really like most of it.
47:56 Dansturn Kimbowa: And probably it even provided a solution. That's ok.
48:01 Aaron Tushabe: like power becomes demo yeah Yes, yes, they most of that clients are corporate type and yeah by the time your hiring someone to just manage the building like night frank with the invoices they assume. Yeah, you have the muscle to you've already bought the generators and you still not see it's like bring on the stabilizer. It says it's just another cost that gets folded in there.
48:40 Dansturn Kimbowa: So yeah, but you would wonder how did you conclude that no the solution is stabilizing?
48:49 Aaron Tushabe: Mmm. I think she just copy and pasted from. From from however, she's a case. Yeah. I this is not the first. I have a number of buildings of this size some even bigger. I don't get complaints from them. So when I reached out to them. I'm like you people. How come we have stable power that I go we have a stabilizer setup. And she's like.
49:15 Dansturn Kimbowa: so That is that I think that those would be the alternatives but maybe I need to I mean I'm sick to hear.
49:32 Aaron Tushabe: And the roof, what do you know about the roof?
49:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: In terms of well, you have been complaining about the group. For quite something because it leaks.
49:44 Aaron Tushabe: he's Yes, but is it clear who they complain too? Who do they complain?
49:54 Dansturn Kimbowa: the destruction
49:59 Aaron Tushabe: so yeah and I think I as anticipating some friction there because yes now yeah,
50:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: But we have we have you speak with a building is set up. They have two hours and
50:07 Aaron Tushabe: yeah because
50:14 Dansturn Kimbowa: then the church. Hello.
50:22 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes that you have you have to what?
50:24 Dansturn Kimbowa: We have to tell us and then the church is set up.
50:28 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes in terms of the roof roof space, but they're all joined together. Yes.
50:32 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, they're all join together so we can have some roof space on the other Tower on the other side.
50:42 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
50:44 Dansturn Kimbowa: It then it may not really be the church the church.
50:49 Aaron Tushabe: Let me let me let me do some analysis on how big that our roofs are if there will be enough for that number of panels. We we would want. Yeah, but yes, I think. yeah for in terms of exposure to sunshine that I was seem like they were better, but my recollection is that they had a bit they had smaller roof space?
51:12 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, every again.
51:16 Aaron Tushabe: But yeah, we can check country everything.
51:20 Dansturn Kimbowa: We could put some funnels on the colors. You know we can always play around with that configuration.
51:32 Aaron Tushabe: Okay um I feel like you you're already I would say let's see how this one goes and and then maybe I try and throw another customer to you compiler club is who is on my mind if yeah.
51:46 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay, yeah, I think my usually my routine is to okay. This is the most recent routine but is to visit at least one potential customer every week.
51:59 Aaron Tushabe: eh okay, then I
52:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: So it will yeah?
52:02 Aaron Tushabe: Cut that that would be that. going to try and set up Kampala club for Friday go must be and I are
52:13 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay, that's that's
52:13 Aaron Tushabe: For them and we see how how we can engage someone. okay um
52:22 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay
52:31 Aaron Tushabe: No, he's not done. I think whenever it gets when I will I will catch him up. Did you have anything else that was pressing?
52:45 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, I really want to understand the system.
52:51 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
52:53 Dansturn Kimbowa: A bit about communication and stuff because I am going to try and use it. So, that's why I was listening.
53:05 Aaron Tushabe: Okay like you. What do you use it in the final Project
53:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: This it projects with green water which is the sacred. So it's very similar to okay. It's a substation Project But I think we are also doing a bit of but it's just not so high level. But the principles have to be the same.
53:42 Aaron Tushabe: The project is to set up the substation to deploy the sub.
53:46 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, they're against the substation is already substation.
53:53 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
53:54 Dansturn Kimbowa: You really deployed, but they want to change this kind of system.
53:59 Aaron Tushabe: why Is it clear to you? Why? What was the Beat like? What was the mid was we need a new SCADA system?
54:09 Dansturn Kimbowa: S. They want to okay they existing. No, so I wasn't actually involved in just brought me owners.
54:17 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
54:22 Dansturn Kimbowa: So okay, let me let me explain now. So they want to expand the substation.
54:34 Aaron Tushabe: okay okay
54:35 Dansturn Kimbowa: So for example, there's like one. so they want to add two more Transformers
54:49 Aaron Tushabe: This is normal business as usual. We're just expanding the network.
54:54 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes, we're just expanding the network because of why you have frequent outages
54:54 Aaron Tushabe: okay
55:01 Dansturn Kimbowa: and what is uecl being about it now. This is what?
55:05 Aaron Tushabe: okay
55:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: So, but they do it they.
55:20 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes.
55:33 Dansturn Kimbowa: can hear
55:34 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, I can hear.
55:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: are you done okay, so so yeah, they are putting two new Transformers And so that means that they need the base what we call base like. the circuit breakers and the whatevers.
56:00 Aaron Tushabe: okay
56:02 Dansturn Kimbowa: And this base come with relays. Which are supposed to communicate? To assist him. now the gateway, I think you understand Gateway Yeah, so there's what we call an rtu or gateway and that get way yeah has
56:23 Aaron Tushabe: Yes.
56:23 Hillary Arinda: Hi, I'm transcribing this call with my Tactiq AI Extension. https://tactiq.io/r/transcribing
56:26 Dansturn Kimbowa: particular pots.
56:28 Aaron Tushabe: okay
56:30 Dansturn Kimbowa: Actually, yeah, just not this ones that the on the osi model physical area that puts a limited so you you if you're putting more because they are quite many devices that they put when there are many signals that they're. so you you want to expand that rtu. You have more pots but also you want to upgrade it. To a version that is because it was maybe put in maybe.
57:16 Dansturn Kimbowa: In what maybe 2010? But you want to upgrade the software you want to up. so yeah, so that's the SCADA so that's that's
57:35 Aaron Tushabe: That was the the work that that udcl put out a bid for.
57:42 Dansturn Kimbowa: That's the work. Yes, so it's really easy it's cetcl but they put out a bid Force so there is a company called grid works that won the beat. Then grid work contracted another company called. tetratech Yeah, that is like the owners engineer that the consultant. Now the consultant had to have both international consultants and local consultants. Yeah, and one of the local consultants is used to the Dunstan chamber.
58:28 Aaron Tushabe: Okay the day end up signing on green water or they had to put on an individual name yourself.
58:34 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, no, no, it's it's individual.
58:37 Aaron Tushabe: okay
58:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: I am yet to understand this thing because everyone is I keep telling them but I work and they come but it seems the They don't want to deal with companies.
58:52 Aaron Tushabe: It might be that you've been brought to as the tetraox contractor.
59:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: Maybe anyway.
59:01 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, also generally individuals are expected to command lower rates than companies might also be a cost management thing. Yeah. Oh, they might have reach
59:08 Dansturn Kimbowa: mmm
59:15 Aaron Tushabe: the cup of number sub companies that can be cruded in subcontracting. You could find out ask yourself directly and find out but they are it is. It is not strange that someone would insist that I only want to work with individuals on.
59:38 Dansturn Kimbowa: It's starting the easier.
59:44 Aaron Tushabe: So I let go.
59:45 Dansturn Kimbowa: So we are ready to start.
59:50 Aaron Tushabe: staring He did we have covered a lot of ground the main things we have covered.
59:53 Hillary Arinda: Hi everyone.
59:58 Aaron Tushabe: been transcribed what around customers and strategy for for acquiring more of them. I think we just recognize I have recognized that please customer conversations significantly go better in person and they are also for a lot of observation and listening so that we can build a good foundation for a long time relationship similar to what we have so I P was for dance stand to take lead on these tomorrow. He has a check-in with what she published and I'm going to try
01:00:47 Aaron Tushabe: and schedule a camper club for him before the end of this week. But our goal is for him to do a customer visit every week to to yeah evaluate
01:01:00 Aaron Tushabe: potential and and see if there they can get them going into the pipeline. Yeah, so yeah, we bant a lot of time. Just going deep on worship harvest. What is their current situation? What are they are paying points? Yeah, but yeah and then before that started with that one. I forgot like I was another topic there. Oh, yes, we talked about then stands on a capital into nfe. Was coming via green water invoices like all that green water in.
01:01:40 Aaron Tushabe: of NFC paying them directly that money would would be recorded as Dan Stan's capital and green Volta would send us receipts that those invoices were paid so that will coordinate by. with the green voltar accountant Yeah, what else no I think those are the main things we touched on the outstanding tropical was sayziwa. Um I I think I just remember last week or to being a hot Topic and a number of open.
01:02:23 Aaron Tushabe: Decisions or inside from that so maybe I thought would give it some more attention. In this other.
01:02:32 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:02:37 Aaron Tushabe: Wise how I useable are you okay and you have 10 to 15 to go over?
01:02:41 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, man, and just a bit busy, but I'm fine.
01:02:51 Aaron Tushabe: in a new insights on
01:02:56 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, the the biggest problem. We're having this not being able to. Get maximum potential from the panels because of because of the current
01:03:07 Aaron Tushabe: the
01:03:11 Hillary Arinda: settings. on the solution is to
01:03:14 Aaron Tushabe: What what do you mean settings?
01:03:18 Hillary Arinda: the way It has three major setup settings there is sbu. That is well a battery utility
01:03:24 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:03:29 Hillary Arinda: then. There is solar utility battery and then there is solar. before. I think until recently it was in solar utility solar utility what battery the problems with that is that. You don't get the best from. the panels in that well, we had to issues one but the first one if you quickly where are the battery was charging between midnight and And six a.m. Of course that was the first win. We had to stop that because if you let the battery charge during that time when you miss out during the so we close that and I think we only let it charge to system is still learning the current configuration. I think it only charges for listening but a minute just to get her for any outages that may come in that time because you know during picket because all the way to say Sub-Zero not sub Zero subtitude and yeah and The risk with that is in case power goes off and you have nothing to cater for
01:04:57 Hillary Arinda: the customers, but we okay with that really. Yeah, so the problem was that.
01:05:03 Aaron Tushabe: But you think but now it's charges for 30 minutes. What does that mean? Is that mean it?
01:05:08 Hillary Arinda: Probably less it should be even less. It should only charge up to like say 20 percent or 30% yeah, such that such that solar covers up so the problem has been
01:05:14 Aaron Tushabe: Up to 20% okay, but I understand.
01:05:22 Hillary Arinda: that after solar covers up utility takes over instead of. instead of the Solar powering the grid So that's one thing that was confusing me. But I think of it.
01:05:39 Aaron Tushabe: So that I can say that again after battery runs out sorry after so.
01:05:43 Hillary Arinda: When yeah the battery is now like priority charging for battery is so light that one was said but they problem was after the battery gets full the grid was still
01:05:55 Aaron Tushabe: Yes.
01:05:57 Hillary Arinda: they customers was too not being supplied by solar and that's what was bothering me only to find out the inverter is not set up in sbu, something like that and so I think there is a PR I don't know if you reviewed it. That's what we are
01:06:16 Aaron Tushabe: I think 95.
01:06:17 Hillary Arinda: trying to change.
01:06:20 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, I looked at it. I had some feedback on it, but yeah mostly seems like it's it's ready to go. Have a look at that the thing that I answer is like it sounded like when solar was charging the battery. I'm picturing this is 9 am in the
01:06:35 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:06:38 Aaron Tushabe: morning or eight am At that point solar can can ease it also supplying the customers. Or it can only do one at a time.
01:06:49 Hillary Arinda: man No, it should be able to do both if these reserve then it uses the result for the other but I would not expect it to have reserve because the battery is charged at a very high current. So they expect them to be charging the battery at that time in my year. Yeah, yeah, but the patches get filled up quite.
01:07:14 Aaron Tushabe: so Right now, it was like the system when when solar is coming in the system needs to decide whether it.
01:07:24 Hillary Arinda: Introduced both it so it should do work like this. If I have I have let's say a lot of one kilowatt right. I should prioritize that Lord yes.
01:07:34 Aaron Tushabe: This is the customer load.
01:07:38 Hillary Arinda: If I have a customer load of one kilowatt, I and I have enough solar generation to cover it. I should cover it then the surplus goes to the battery such that
01:07:47 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, so it is customers, but it is the inverter goes to to custom.
01:07:48 Hillary Arinda: you still not using utility hmm.
01:07:53 Aaron Tushabe: it it like if if the if that the solar was in enough. It's the battery. would get little to nothing.
01:08:05 Hillary Arinda: Yes.
01:08:07 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:08:07 Hillary Arinda: Or actually, this is how it in an ideal condition. How it would work is like this as long as the battery is not below 15% and the solar Is Not Enough You discharge from both the battery and solar and in case both of them are not enough then the grid comes in yeah.
01:08:29 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes.
01:08:31 Hillary Arinda: That's one then, so when the solar picks up and the customer load goes low so you have enough solar to supply the customer and charge the batteries you do
01:08:41 Aaron Tushabe: And and battery yes yes okay, I see.
01:08:42 Hillary Arinda: that and then the greed comes in when the batteries at zero. Of course that comes with the risk so we are running it on the trial of one week to see how it how it impacts reliability, but that's the best setup for maximum
01:08:59 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:09:01 Hillary Arinda: profitability.
01:09:03 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, I think it's definitely worth running for the week okay.
01:09:08 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, so what we're trying to do is get that setup running and then we keep watching the impact it has on outages and then we'll make changes accordingly
01:09:22 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, how about the issue of panels output being very far from?
01:09:22 Hillary Arinda: but that's fine.
01:09:32 Aaron Tushabe: spec sheets
01:09:35 Hillary Arinda: Can you can you confirm that?
01:09:37 Aaron Tushabe: That that we were seeing the energy were getting out of the panozy was significantly lower than our projections and our projections. specs of this panels and estimated sun intensity of of Kampala like that projection. It looked like we are coming in very much lower than the projection. It's isn't that still the case?
01:10:02 Hillary Arinda: I wouldn't say that yet, because we do not have enough data recorded yet and
01:10:09 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:10:10 Hillary Arinda: quite frankly we do not know if the weather is doing I understand where in the rainy season. If when rain this season then we are getting what we expect remember the ranges from 12 kilowatt hours to 18 and as of yesterday. There are days we have done 13 kilowatt hours. I would yeah correct. Let me just check on the group. Just give me a second.
01:10:31 Aaron Tushabe: okay This isn't looked it.
01:10:38 Hillary Arinda: Oh, there's something that has just come in now okay. Let me see.
01:10:42 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, this is in the daily report.
01:10:46 Hillary Arinda: Yes.
01:10:47 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, I'm sorry.
01:10:48 Hillary Arinda: This just check on what's up? let me see
01:10:53 Aaron Tushabe: we click on
01:10:54 Hillary Arinda: Sarah generated yes the second graph. Very good the second graph Mr graph. Some guy asked for graphs are there. okay
01:11:06 Aaron Tushabe: I'm here. Let me share my screen. This is the latest one that came in is the one latest one that came in is the one
01:11:11 Hillary Arinda: They're very latest one. Yes.
01:11:11 Aaron Tushabe: you're looking at. But what?
01:11:17 Hillary Arinda: Please maximize it.
01:11:18 Dansturn Kimbowa: The Starving I thought I thought you might say but what is it?
01:11:24 Hillary Arinda: no time
01:11:26 Aaron Tushabe: Is and they said he made it very clear he is for the mission anyone. He will
01:11:29 Hillary Arinda: numbers. We are going to take them away.
01:11:36 Aaron Tushabe: have better knew loud thinking twice.
01:11:36 Hillary Arinda: clearly
01:11:41 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:11:42 Hillary Arinda: But reliability is not very good. We are at 97.
01:11:48 Aaron Tushabe: Well, it was that you guys living in me. I mean Uganda people living 50% ability and these are they like.
01:11:55 Hillary Arinda: No, no, this is enough e this is a new chapter now.
01:12:01 Dansturn Kimbowa: But Wait I saw the hundred percent
01:12:01 Aaron Tushabe: People you record 97 and it is red this should be at least orange guys.
01:12:10 Hillary Arinda: Our index is measured in the nines. You know like how those Cloud service companies give that SL is how many
01:12:19 Aaron Tushabe: Service company guys a residential we should treat them as a resident. They don't have they're not losing customers because now that the thing is that 97 they don't even notice they don't notice.
01:12:38 Hillary Arinda: It's expected you can see the blacks the Italian with. Something is weird this has something to do with the sun anyway, so what I wanted to put our attention to is.
01:12:51 Dansturn Kimbowa: did
01:12:54 Hillary Arinda: The second graph solegenerated it there is a day we hit. Yeah. There's the day
01:12:56 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:12:58 Hillary Arinda: we hit 15 13.
01:13:00 Aaron Tushabe: Hmm. Okay, this is
01:13:01 Hillary Arinda: For me that that's okay and with more optimize okay. I want to see this numbers continue to grow as a system adjusts on its own as we agreed.
01:13:12 Aaron Tushabe: yeah, I
01:13:12 Hillary Arinda: Then I want to see how that solar generation impacts so like I said we are going to change a bit. We are not going to prioritize reliability we hope that by Tweaking sbu reliability gets solved automatically, what do I mean? We believe by prioritizing solar generation battery charging? Outages should be cataract for automatically so we may not care when remember what you said there time. Why don't we start discharging a bit earlier instead of waiting for 6 p.m. Now? That's what that's why we are moving. Saturday was interesting.
01:14:00 Aaron Tushabe: Instead of waiting for 6 p.m.
01:14:02 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, no, we don't have to wait. We just start deciding our battery when it's ready basically. We are trying to go off greed as much as possible.
01:14:07 Aaron Tushabe: Because peak usage pqz. No, but here I remind my problem is that we have s. We know what peak usage is a data has been much higher than 10 kilowatt hours.
01:14:21 Hillary Arinda: No, no has it been much higher?
01:14:24 Aaron Tushabe: Really between between 6 and a when guys are back from work.
01:14:25 Hillary Arinda: Because that you mean 6:00 p.m. No, no, no, it's around that. It's around. Because monthly usage remember monthly usage is about 25 to 30 kilowatt hours and of that 42 percent goes to peak so it can't be where we higher than 10.
01:14:46 Aaron Tushabe: okay Let's okay, let's imagine it is 10 all I'm saying is that I know that PT usage is more expensive no.
01:14:57 Hillary Arinda: That yes, we agree. Yes.
01:14:59 Aaron Tushabe: So I definitely want to spend all my battery during that window then spend it during shoulder when there is cheaper sure download.
01:15:05 Hillary Arinda: No remember the argument was by midnight. We went almost zero in that battery and this was your case actually you're like why do we even still have 15?
01:15:14 Aaron Tushabe: Yes. Yes, yes correct, correct, yes.
01:15:19 Hillary Arinda: you remember the stand yes, yes and that's the point that's
01:15:21 Dansturn Kimbowa: I do remember hmm.
01:15:24 Hillary Arinda: like we are going to start discharging at 4 p.m. No no something like five maybe
01:15:27 Aaron Tushabe: six A cos for me where I left you is that you are starting to discharge at 10 pm and
01:15:31 Hillary Arinda: sometimes. Yes, yes.
01:15:37 Aaron Tushabe: I was like that's to whatever can you start at night, but it seemed like when we
01:15:39 Hillary Arinda: I know that was way before hmm.
01:15:40 Aaron Tushabe: started at 9 p.m. We were seeing who are not able to make it to midnight like we're at 10 30 was saying we're running out.
01:15:46 Hillary Arinda: That was done like that was like for one day. No wait wait.
01:15:52 Aaron Tushabe: Hmm. Okay, then I am on all data. I didn't seem like this particular customer
01:15:54 Hillary Arinda: that That was like for the first days.
01:16:00 Aaron Tushabe: load profile if we started discharging even at 9 9 30 we were barely reaching midnight without eating zero. between nine and ten that. You find that you end up yeah like our time to start discharging is likely somewhere between nine and nine thirty starting at 9 was were getting alerts that man this thing is almost tempty at 10:30. Yet, we started discharging at nine. So I didn't have any confidence that if we try to start studying at 6 p.m. We would make it to 9pm.
01:16:46 Hillary Arinda: we've been excuse me we've been discharging as early as
01:16:52 Aaron Tushabe: m
01:16:53 Hillary Arinda: Six or seven if I remember let me just confirm yes, but yes we have been
01:16:55 Dansturn Kimbowa: That's what there is a day so remember.
01:16:57 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:17:01 Hillary Arinda: reducing it every other day.
01:17:03 Aaron Tushabe: okay then create
01:17:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: And you want to take it farther down to five.
01:17:05 Hillary Arinda: Okay, so yeah, I went to father down very very correct because what I'm seeing here is on Monday 26 October that pq's edge was measure my screen.
01:17:20 Aaron Tushabe: Okay okay, because I'm here trying to see these things yes from day.
01:17:22 Hillary Arinda: Let me how do I you know hold on send?
01:17:28 Aaron Tushabe: And it's top sharing amazing.
01:17:31 Hillary Arinda: It took I'm sending the PDF you can share.
01:17:36 Aaron Tushabe: Screen, where is it being sent?
01:17:42 Hillary Arinda: the nfe group
01:17:50 Dansturn Kimbowa: Uncertainty 100% efficiency so yeah, I'm still sold.
01:17:57 Aaron Tushabe: Well a hundred percent efficiency 100% up time.
01:18:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: I mean up so
01:18:14 Hillary Arinda: There but yeah, but I was forward also I think I told you that you don't trust
01:18:18 Aaron Tushabe: Good morning, also didn't into sleep where kwaza right friend. We need what do
01:18:19 Hillary Arinda: the panel so much yes.
01:18:25 Aaron Tushabe: you mean that the whole mission is hinging on the power of the family because and
01:18:35 Dansturn Kimbowa: the people invested
01:18:35 Hillary Arinda: Okay, so there it is you can open it. okay Saturday 79% it is It is there. six eighteen the four hours I know it's energy.
01:19:30 Aaron Tushabe: Hmm. So where is I'm
01:19:31 Hillary Arinda: Yeah 50 8.4 kilowatt hours. That's the usage so what we're trying to say is this you see the first the first one. that's the Window
01:19:45 Aaron Tushabe: time does it mean it started at 6?
01:19:47 Hillary Arinda: It's that six years. It's exactly as long as it's above 30 percent. And initially I rule was 75, but we said no let's take it much lower as I'm about 30. I should discharge.
01:20:10 Aaron Tushabe: You should be able to discharge. What full battery gives above the 50% guys I need
01:20:32 Hillary Arinda: But then that means you're right. We cannot hit below. We cannot cross the five pm because we are still serving customers from the grid. yeah Unless we start from more higher than I don't know why we don't set that a hundred now like when Saturday we started at 97.
01:20:58 Aaron Tushabe: because but but
01:20:58 Hillary Arinda: So it depends on how high we start yes? Okay, so where the battery is full by that time.
01:21:02 Aaron Tushabe: I think It it might fall because of an outage during that day. yeah
01:21:11 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:21:11 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, they've been some 3pm afternoon outages for like an hour and a half button some alerts on those and I think those drain and somehow solar isn't enough to
01:21:29 Hillary Arinda: You're right, you're very right. I I think there were not major outages to your point. You want to know when it's switched to the grid okay good. I think I get your question it wasn't answered.
01:22:03 Aaron Tushabe: graph here. where it would it was showing Hand graph here that was Paint It no. graph graph graphs need to
01:22:27 Hillary Arinda: we the graphs
01:22:29 Aaron Tushabe: no battery this seems like it shows a battery discharging but also shows me the
01:22:39 Hillary Arinda: It shows a battery level basically battery levels because charging on discharging. Yes. I had see what I mean as you can see when it reaches 20 percent we are no longer charging. You get it yeah yeah, yes.
01:23:06 Aaron Tushabe: really, what okay I think I 50% in there. There's Alia experiments were trying to make sure that at 50% but because it's them through an hour and a half of a power outage at night here to this shows and still
01:23:48 Hillary Arinda: mmm
01:23:48 Aaron Tushabe: And still have like when it started at discharging at. at near 100%
01:23:54 Hillary Arinda: okay to answer your question it the answer to your that around 11 pm. When the battery start when they are full by eleven pm. We are back to we are back to what to the grid and I think that's okay. I don't expect a lot of usage at 11. Yeah.
01:24:16 Aaron Tushabe: I think that's okay. Yeah, I think that's
01:24:39 Aaron Tushabe: Senti why can't every day of our lives be like this guys?
01:24:45 Hillary Arinda: which which one and every Every day no, that's too much. Too much it's like cumulative. See, what day we are seven like 10 10K if we can hit 10K. Because I'm seeing 7800 so if you do say 7800 times 30. That's about 234, but that's still small compared to what we expecting.
01:25:30 Aaron Tushabe: promising
01:25:37 Hillary Arinda: no And read this month will tell.
01:25:41 Aaron Tushabe: yeah
01:25:51 Hillary Arinda: I would yeah Norm this matter just no we didn't end it was still learning so nip
01:25:54 Aaron Tushabe: for
01:26:01 Hillary Arinda: November I would tell. But now November has also been invest we are with partners. Yeah.
01:26:14 Aaron Tushabe: But yeah can be an experiment anyway, if if we ever turns out to be important
01:26:19 Aaron Tushabe: data to get we have the option to just pause solar and and run a month of battery arbitrage on the embassy so this site rule is going to continue to be so So yeah Cali billing went okay to a sort of okay, but I have found. it's a possibility we've done in MGM With Jackie's thing and but it was able to to fix it.
01:27:08 Hillary Arinda: Let me talk he has paid.
01:27:13 Aaron Tushabe: the only one paid the other thing was that I I noticed that the thing is loading slowly for something that hardly has any data in it you see. so I asked asked Claude to go in and find out why and turns out the app and So yeah well, I don't know if there that just went wrong when Noah deploying. I
01:27:38 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:28:15 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, my hope is to REdesign this UI so that it can look something like this like I should also be able to just on the dashboard. Have some of these as widgets that that we can see about every microgrid.
01:28:34 Hillary Arinda: That would be cool.
01:28:36 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, so let me have not used clawed design before but I'm told does one does so I'll give that and go.
01:28:45 Hillary Arinda: And the women build comes on seventh thing.
01:28:48 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, but now I'm realizing it comes on seven that should we need to wait for it? We have the tariff we have the our three phase meter what weight are three phase meter doesn't mirror enemo. It comes after the customers it comes after.
01:29:13 Hillary Arinda: Ha yeah. Yeah, it does your right.
01:29:18 Aaron Tushabe: Remember maybe end up coming on six.
01:29:21 Hillary Arinda: But obviously an increment in there usage anyway compared to the previous months now that they is more. Reliability or it's very negative.
01:29:32 Aaron Tushabe: It's very negligible they also have I get maybe because they're small users they entirely for like two months there and I had to reach out to them and ask them. Did you buy more plants and that I know I have only the Makers around or it's Uh so if guys kids went back from back to boarding school. I use drops back or just changes in them can show a big changing in use it that I think usage as due
01:30:18 Aaron Tushabe: to battery a bit Russia and all one not or not coming through.
01:30:37 Hillary Arinda: hmm
01:30:43 Aaron Tushabe: very It made a meeting. I'm trying to remember that URL for
01:32:24 Aaron Tushabe: it used to give me the It used to just give me these issues. And I would.
01:32:46 Hillary Arinda: check
01:32:53 Aaron Tushabe: still
01:32:56 Hillary Arinda: Ed
01:33:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: But I am a bit distracted but they are more.
01:33:04 Aaron Tushabe: We should I think we have good to wrap up the meeting. um you see these are the issues I would get but that that let's But seems like since batteries. Heat. We have been closer to. You see the increases that this is all before batteries and then around here batteries heat.
01:34:00 Hillary Arinda: okay okay
01:34:06 Aaron Tushabe: by like
01:34:08 Hillary Arinda: Look at the units you didn't increase the unit used me. I'm looking at the units. Yeah, there is something.
01:34:15 Aaron Tushabe: there
01:34:21 Hillary Arinda: mmm
01:34:23 Aaron Tushabe: Went up by 100 units. that MGM yeah, let me see 714 compared to 7 7 17 the previous month. yeah, so
01:34:52 Hillary Arinda: so, what was October That was August no, I'm looking now for October fast and November 1st. So September sorry October 30 fast this is what I'm about. And it's also 714 okay good. So say 100 bit steady.
01:35:34 Aaron Tushabe: A grid we are looking for is is one that does what is 2 million?
01:35:41 Hillary Arinda: hmm Oh seven hundred this more.
01:36:10 Aaron Tushabe: Did you have any updates on?
01:36:19 Hillary Arinda: You see that my honestly. She has been my she's in. She's right now in bright. So she's a bit hard to reach but I'm going to give. Terry Hey, they switch they switch. I mean it's a group of owners. So when right now. It's some other manager on duty. Can you hear me right now? It's not that
01:36:47 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, I can hear.
01:36:50 Hillary Arinda: there's some this is another manager in Duty
01:36:54 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:36:54 Hillary Arinda: So for hashes running the one in bra at the moment.
01:37:00 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, let me throw up a Pedro potential customers, we can talk to and we begin
01:37:01 Hillary Arinda: We have a budget.
01:37:07 Aaron Tushabe: chessing yeah following up about add them then assign you as the point of
01:37:13 Aaron Tushabe: contact for now. The stand is pointer contact and worship harvest, but we are
01:37:18 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:37:19 Aaron Tushabe: going to see how to hand over more to him since he's on ground. I think that's our check-in today. Should we can I pray for us and we? Call you.
01:37:38 Hillary Arinda: Yes, please.
01:37:40 Aaron Tushabe: Your father yeah.
01:37:41 Hillary Arinda: yeah
01:37:43 Aaron Tushabe: We are thankful for this mission load. Thank you for keeping us focused keeping us aligned keeping us working together Lord whether we are slowed as we enter this phase of pursuing customer's Lord we are we ask for is done show us the right ones to reach out to give us the confidence to hear what they are pain points and proposes Solutions that will be mutually beneficial but that will bring glory to your name lord. Thank you for the opportunity to work on a problem that as a global impact are not not just in one country, but all over the world Lord we.
01:38:37 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, no special one, but because of your grace Lord we are here and we are thankful for that word. We also thank you for this milestone of finally heating phase 3 for nasana. It's been hey January of almost more than ayanna O Lord that we thank you for every step along the way and we are excited to see other customers go through this journey and become profitable not just financially but also for in other ways for the customers load achieving reliable power load. Thank you again for Mr Dream and myself Lord thank you for giving us this vision Lord we pray Lord that will continue to adding it faithfully submit all our plans this week to you
01:39:35 Aaron Tushabe: stretching will be meeting some customers and moving those conversations forward celery and I also continue working on other aspects of our product. Would you give us the strength and wisdom and commitment and discipline to continue pushing the mission in Christ's name? I pray amen.
01:40:02 Hillary Arinda: Hey man, hey man so for my leads, please. Let's have a reminder. I think I actually I could have forgotten midweek when she didn't get back to me. But you know because we talked to again, but it didn't come up.
01:40:17 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, I can. Yeah, I am thinking about schools. There's another company has involved with that's been trying to sell AI to schools and I unless you guys think there's any reason schools wouldn't be a good customer but I wanted to reach out to schools that were they already selling AI too.
  