# Meeting Transcription

  Meeting started: 9/19/2026, 6:54:47 AM
  Duration: 73 minutes
  Participants: Aaron Tushabe, Dansturn Kimbowa, Hillary Arinda

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    ## Highlights

    > 09:04 Aaron Tushabe: calically Let me prefer us and let's Get Started dear Lord thank you for this time load. our time is We would need after first one we would have more granular 15 minute data to it possible we ask for wisdom for us to make most of it discuss the most and then
> 11:31 Aaron Tushabe: Okay that we make the talk, but we'll put it on the agenda for next week.
> 11:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: What is good next week? There will know where to get together today? What is good next week? There will know where to get together today?
> 21:34 Aaron Tushabe: We are looking at let me look for a good summary this one here.
> 51:30 Aaron Tushabe: your purpose we think about. How do we supply these extended areas? How do we yeah? Give them? Give them whatever because mmm but again all of these you could have extended umeme power there, but we have learned. It is not reliable we are being serious. But if there's an event going on we don't risk it.
> 01:01:17 Hillary Arinda: One we should have a good. eagle by detaching A good understanding of a whole architecture and of course and feasibility and very very importantly.
> 01:05:05 Aaron Tushabe: also just give you that a road transcript okay, so yeah okay. Any other goal that stands out? I think I also like just have him one Solid One
> 01:12:22 Aaron Tushabe: Thank you shall find us those tomorrow morning.
> 01:12:51 Aaron Tushabe: I haven't yet arrived them at a base the thing our hotel rooms won't be ready till tomorrow. Well, at least that's what I put in there form. So yeah tomorrow. So yeah, I

  ## Transcript

  00:00 Aaron Tushabe: He's very good morning. closer How are you today? So you broke up what?
00:28 Hillary Arinda: Yep, yep. That's anyway.
00:34 Aaron Tushabe: seems to be yeah
02:03 Aaron Tushabe: Hello. dance Dan if you can hear me Yeah, waiting for you on the go. and then I have the This conference coming up.
02:20 Aaron Tushabe: Hi, I'm transcribing this call with my Tactiq AI Extension. https://tactiq.io/r/transcribing
03:06 Aaron Tushabe: I don't have clothes does this things but cortex week but from the daily reports yesterday seemed like something serious Every month like one reset will pop up but you decide when you're going to use it. that I don't know if you
03:39 Hillary Arinda: clothes wealth card is in their own Town's body they can decide to give you five resets in a week, but it's up to them so Codex
03:47 Aaron Tushabe: And maybe it was cause of the power outage.
03:50 Hillary Arinda: Codex is better.
03:53 Aaron Tushabe: don't know it doesn't feel like it's a regular one of my every month. It does feel like it's up to them but
04:01 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, but at least they met you may make you choose when to use it. I was your day you have your tokens, then they just reset you like no I didn't need your
04:09 Aaron Tushabe: So now let's take it back to business has usually.
04:11 Hillary Arinda: research when you're out.
04:17 Aaron Tushabe: yeah, okay, so no updates on but I'll be treasure yet, where is the either like two months. They give you reset reset. You can use any time in the next two months. but no
04:29 Hillary Arinda: Just guys are very creative.
04:31 Aaron Tushabe: I mean.
04:32 Hillary Arinda: Meanwhile, I've been told I've been told. which didn't I can't just switch.
04:42 Aaron Tushabe: That way the way I might conserving the good music when I hear things like. They have metabolic to to finish it in an hour.
04:57 Dansturn Kimbowa: my people
04:59 Aaron Tushabe: Good morning.
05:01 Dansturn Kimbowa: nine way
05:06 Aaron Tushabe: So the overall thing is like, what does this look like for a non-residential customer the example? I worked with was worship harvest and data dunstanad gotenas the general value proposition for them. Is you get reliable power at the
05:26 Hillary Arinda: Oh no.
05:26 Aaron Tushabe: To get some work done. So I'm like. Oh, I just considered use my reset. with Nancy now first to usually just a backup but the way this thing model did it seems like for phase two way, we would have to also introduce solar because So I can't wait to.
05:48 Hillary Arinda: Let me ask. You experienced some differences with Astra like they at tangible.
05:56 Aaron Tushabe: I have I have not there to switch to that. I'm telling you I'm like was a I'm just going to see my usage get consumed in an hour like this. Yeah. No man my and some during orpheak. Things I think the old model is just fine but I hear I mean from all that demos here if we decide to. To rewrite MBE and all that I might do it. I want shorter tempted and see what what that does but it feels like just seeing the level of heavy lifting. It does those apartments finally got some occupant work betting some occupancy from what Can hook I don't know don't you feel like they're between opus and fable like usage is like 3x or something.
07:04 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, it definitely is so what I do.
07:08 Dansturn Kimbowa: this one
07:09 Hillary Arinda: I put I put this costume prompt where first of all. I only useful for planning and review. And then I only use it up to 60 percent when my when my weekly matrices 60% it I turned it off for those years opash, but then to cover up. I use so need for
07:29 Aaron Tushabe: You you don't.
07:36 Hillary Arinda: coding since I've already it's done a very good plan and I'm going to do a good
07:39 Aaron Tushabe: like that
07:42 Hillary Arinda: review.
07:44 Aaron Tushabe: I think I might give that a try yeah. Okay, so the the model is also for phases like we do with the residential we first deploy submittering then we do backup then we add solar capacity then,
08:04 Hillary Arinda: It's actually good move.
08:05 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, so I ate you have to amusing them through some other two code open code.
08:13 Hillary Arinda: there's now open code and
08:16 Aaron Tushabe: So yeah that was one key difference that you will see later why the economics got better with that with the solar and then specifically on the evidence we got
08:23 Hillary Arinda: Open the code. Let me not it down.
08:27 Aaron Tushabe: of it was during shoulder, and I think that will continue and then the target source models, but I think Facebook is desperate for users so they've thrown there latest muse Park models on there for free for now. So they've been decent NVIDIA is also trying to be in the game basically it has a number of models of guys who are trying to get in the game NVIDIA has their own models they throw them on there. For free essential so what they try for sure.
09:04 Aaron Tushabe: calically Let me prefer us and let's Get Started dear Lord thank you for this time load. our time is We would need after first one we would have more granular 15 minute data to it possible we ask for wisdom for us to make most of it discuss the most and then
09:36 Aaron Tushabe: the money now from India from from running the money forward to. Him this week Lord in Jesus name I pray amen. I think Dunstan you you have use for this tracking because they've demo did doing a lot of AutoCAD work.
10:25 Dansturn Kimbowa: open Astra
10:25 Aaron Tushabe: This this is over what we would be selling. What is this customer electricity revenue dash Florida then? gross avoided utility purchases
10:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: What what the what's the subscription?
10:44 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, so we needed the math on what would be leftover. Every month on profit came about 24 so that's about to EMP per month.
10:56 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay and it does it does drawings. people if I can
11:02 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, it does the 3D drawings very serious 3D drawings.
11:07 Dansturn Kimbowa: MP4
11:11 Aaron Tushabe: I think you should show me what your current process is and if I still maintenance. you might be a exercise yet. You might be pouring three hours in.
11:27 Dansturn Kimbowa: I was days man.
11:31 Aaron Tushabe: Okay that we make the talk, but we'll put it on the agenda for next week.
11:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: What is good next week? There will know where to get together today? What is good next week? There will know where to get together today?
11:47 Dansturn Kimbowa: Have a plan for you anyway, but that is exciting I'm going to follow. I'm going to give you those daily phone calls that.
11:58 Aaron Tushabe: You have to get your feedback, so if it does it make sense does this part at
12:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: good
12:08 Aaron Tushabe: Where are my I am on agenda?
12:11 Dansturn Kimbowa: And I missed that instead. Sorry, I want to bring my informal things.
12:16 Aaron Tushabe: man the government
12:22 Dansturn Kimbowa: Look at agenda.
12:24 Aaron Tushabe: Agenda, this is what I have as the items to to go over today. Yes. Just what should be our goals at the conference and then. I don't know if mister in there was able to touch on battery. I betrayed this happened. I don't know if that was you Hillary like it look like there was some more like discharging than usual. see if it happened again okay, how it has
13:32 Hillary Arinda: was it Mich
13:38 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, you continue paying your bill. Obviously your if you've been enduring the Blackout your bill will go up because now you're using power during the But it's seemed like it happened probably on its own because of a power outage.
13:55 Hillary Arinda: yeah
13:56 Aaron Tushabe: process. Yes, you've been running better now for the specifically if it was a yeah
14:25 Hillary Arinda: I'm going to I'm going to have to.
14:32 Aaron Tushabe: English
14:33 Hillary Arinda: It was almost done.
14:36 Aaron Tushabe: already have a connection so we need the ideal case would be that we take over that connection the one you have the meter. to touch on the other action items from last meeting a public stealing asking paying also the amount because we we would then make our connection as primary and either when our for yeah, and then only draw from women when we don't have
15:10 Hillary Arinda: You said you had the brilliant idea it's on the agenda.
15:14 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, well, billionth idea there aren't from yesterday these commercial model.
15:24 Hillary Arinda: Oh, yeah, that's the one.
15:25 Aaron Tushabe: Or okay, I'll start from there seeing as it is still the top idea.
15:58 Aaron Tushabe: same at no additional cost you we get too much the tariff that you already get from the from the utility. so the key one key difference here is that for the residentials like we've done
16:32 Aaron Tushabe: what I hopes offset reduce the amount where buying from the grid so for phase two to be feasible we need to add some PV For just looking at worship harvest Lord there are doing about 6.9 megawatt hours per month. And their spread most of it is during shoulder, but they have some during peak Also trust that it's growing like at least looking at the past three months they for me.
17:26 Aaron Tushabe: that was going on or Oh yes. Yes, of course. Yes, it is ours that had Amita is still ours. I could see they hadn't yet got an occupancy so I would expect that when they do Then Phase 2 we deploy the Phase 2 you get reliable power initially up to 6 down to about 120 kilowatt hours of lfp. 50 kilowatt. Inverter and initially it had said about 28 panels, but it's recalibrated that to about 40.
18:19 Hillary Arinda: 14
18:20 Aaron Tushabe: yeah Before notes yeah, Dunstan is that you I will.
18:30 Dansturn Kimbowa: It is it is misery this must was calling inside dropped off a bit but I'm back.
18:37 Aaron Tushabe: Okay and we need to go back and because I need your feedback here.
18:42 Dansturn Kimbowa: hmm
18:44 Aaron Tushabe: This model I don't know what point you dropped off a day. I had you had me talk about this extra.
18:51 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, just just start from there.
19:10 Aaron Tushabe: then we give them the ownership option. What is different for the commercial seems like for Phase 2 to make sense is that we need to add significant solar that the offers to system make sure you never lose power. from worship. Harvest their monthly usage was about 6.9 megawatt hours and most for Phase 2 this the one I've modeled would be to give them at least six hours I am understanding. What are the plans you have and the facility and making sure power outage. They would that battery capacity is designed to be able to take them completely through it.
20:22 Aaron Tushabe: got better with that with the solar and then specifically on the evidence we got So that the design of the system for now come as came down to about 120 kilowatt hours of battery capacity 50 kilowatt hour three phase inverter that much solar and all our software what needs to be valid would need to be validated is that the system is able to accommodate whatever changes are going on within within in the bills. validate whether this this sort of inverter would indeed make sense.
21:34 Aaron Tushabe: We are looking at let me look for a good summary this one here.
21:40 Aaron Tushabe: It went up to 140 but the initial estimate was about 120 ma about putting in a cup of 120 mark for that Phase 2 and that would. What's wrong with the the connection? An annual of about 24 months and your net profit of about 24 million. Stone estimated costs of
22:38 Aaron Tushabe: yeah On return that this is after it included estimated that for running a software it estimated that we should be leaving saving annually about seven m to help with possibly replenishing these batteries in like 15 in 15 years. And then all these I think are annualized figures. So this is anti actually this generators. Yeah, and then this I think would be the revenue coming from. from sale of electricity know why you would keep it there if it is I don't. Bank finance this thing. But I think before we get into that. primarily buy the power from us and not from a generate. least make sense.
24:16 Aaron Tushabe: these last three
24:25 Dansturn Kimbowa: Let me play the worship harvest person here.
24:27 Aaron Tushabe: okay
24:30 Dansturn Kimbowa: So you said the preposition is reliable power that's no extra cost that's what I
24:36 Aaron Tushabe: Yes.
24:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: And um and you'll be able to tell that this this has run from my generator that okay so
24:42 Aaron Tushabe: Everybody part no extra cost and then we also already call it a right to land audit the system that we are using to supply you power so that you have
24:53 Dansturn Kimbowa: To do what?
24:55 Aaron Tushabe: To put panels on your roof. Done according to that the right standards and that it is billing you correctly.
25:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: And so this cost of solar panels cost of batteries who bears that cost.
25:14 Aaron Tushabe: nfe
25:16 Dansturn Kimbowa: and Ife
25:16 Aaron Tushabe: yes, and if
25:20 Dansturn Kimbowa: So for us, we just continue paying up bill.
25:33 Aaron Tushabe: blackouts, but yes you just continue paying your bill so again that the first
25:36 Dansturn Kimbowa: We've been right we've been running.
25:44 Aaron Tushabe: customer. so the ownership option says that if a customer would like to own the batteries that you will no longer need that generator and and you can take it somewhere additional monthly payment for a certain period of time and after that period of or you use from those assets and one here when we said you just pay your bill. So now this is the thing you Uh so that you pay to USB bill rather than paying to us our usage and then
26:47 Aaron Tushabe: solar to charge batteries or to supply that the facilities. So instead of you having a reduced maybe plus also our bill to pay. I think that the most like convenient thing would be like for us. We give you one Bill and then we take care of any any of the other bills. So for actually published. I don't know how would navigate yeah. We pitch this to them and then we explain that yeah after phase one. We take over your bill.
27:26 Dansturn Kimbowa: What's Phase 1?
27:27 Aaron Tushabe: There's one is submittering that we need we need to actually sequence now our estimate is really just based on flat usage like the number of kilowatt hours. company but some customers and think usually the residentials appreciate that at inverter correctly. So phase one we put another three phase meter in front of your current three phase meter and we we collect data phase one is what we are doing at I guess the Chimbo I still there.
28:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay and still that is that you know now speaking like what she probably stay.
28:01 Aaron Tushabe: yeah
28:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: I'm not speaking if I'm still that will be your bill.
28:11 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, no no no in phase one. We are just submittering so that we can and I think
28:17 Dansturn Kimbowa: I'm saying putting that meter in front of our meter. You are going to meet that carpix.
28:30 Aaron Tushabe: I mean that complex.
28:33 Dansturn Kimbowa: And then first two.
28:42 Aaron Tushabe: to
28:45 Dansturn Kimbowa: What do you do in first you put batteries?
28:48 Aaron Tushabe: And I estimated the cost of the system. facility to put my batteries and panels on your on your roof.
29:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay And then first three.
29:05 Aaron Tushabe: Phase 3 I'm doing some.
29:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: So, when do we when do we start to pay to you and not?
29:10 Aaron Tushabe: of Phase 2
29:12 Dansturn Kimbowa: Phase 2
29:13 Aaron Tushabe: Yes. Phase two you're getting reliable power on a one bill from me and and power power is reliable.
29:24 Dansturn Kimbowa: First one we are still paying two meme.
29:27 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, phase one you still bankrup memory phase one. I'm just collecting data. So
29:28 Hillary Arinda: it's
29:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: And then if there's three.
29:42 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, there's a phase three where I am. I I am doing some optimizations to make
29:43 Hillary Arinda: Yes.
29:50 Aaron Tushabe: sure that this system can grow with your with your increased usage so I am I am
29:58 Hillary Arinda: oh I
30:04 Aaron Tushabe: that we are either ready to add solar capacity of battery capacity to to make sure because conditions change sometimes it might be your increased usage or it might be that your area has the power outage profile has changed so during phase 3 which is really. Continues for their lifetime of the system we are optimizing to make sure that your facility but also within the outside depending on how yeah, the utility has has changed and how they supply power so really.
30:49 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay, what what happened in events where we have because we have some. where we have like spikes like a big gathering of 10,000 people.
31:05 Aaron Tushabe: That that should not change change what what?
31:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: We bring generators. We just bring generators. We use that generator that is there and also. other generators that okay.
31:22 Aaron Tushabe: What what okay that's a good question wait wait. Do you do you bring them? It's too small.
31:32 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay, let's come um auction they got to the answer to that question because the other generators are taking care of additional screens that we have put so they are not they're not. But still we can put some additional things in the in the whatever.
31:47 Hillary Arinda: not but
31:52 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, we don't I don't think our connection will be limited that it won't be able to handle that but if it is then we would we would be part of first three
32:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: So okay.
32:05 Aaron Tushabe: where we learn we learn that every I don't know so often you your your load significantly jumps and and instead of just like we hope you get rid of the first generator we can do some optimization to help you get rid of those
32:25 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay, but the generator would still stay there just immediately.
32:28 Aaron Tushabe: The meter is this and at least it is being built at this. haven't needed it. It's up to you to decide whether you keep it there. I don't
32:41 Dansturn Kimbowa: But you would give me an option of Steel running gateway need it. Thank you.
32:48 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, I I wouldn't stop you. I think we we will have an agreement that you you
32:59 Dansturn Kimbowa: So when I run the generator, what do I do? I didn't buy do I then have to pay you or I I just buy few.
33:06 Aaron Tushabe: then belongs to you any any additional generator. You would bring on site would belong to you the system that belongs to us is at the the batteries and panels and and the and the grid connection so the will will be bad by by NF e.
33:48 Dansturn Kimbowa: this has run from nfe.
33:50 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, would I think an a key step we need to do is that we need an engineer or an engineer from a company that you will pick but someone to represent whatever to
34:06 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, you apply.
34:08 Aaron Tushabe: confidence that it is.
34:12 Hillary Arinda: ing
34:17 Dansturn Kimbowa: But this ownership thing, what is the what is option for own?
34:21 Aaron Tushabe: We believe that our customers don't some of our customers. dependent on another company in definitely for their power needs, so we give you a an option to after period of about 25 years to own the system or it can even be shorter, but we give you a list on option so we can add an additional payment every month on in addition to your bill that moves you towards owning this system in a period of 15 to 25 years depending on the monthly payments your you can afford to pay.
35:08 Hillary Arinda: So hold on explain the ownership part again, please.
35:19 Aaron Tushabe: and the solar we can give you a lease to own option where we you pay an time you would own the assets and we would no longer charge you for the power so you plan for fuel every Sunday our operational service or we could train your people to operate it and we completely exit the engagement. So you are not indefinitely.
36:07 Hillary Arinda: Explain that but we no longer charge you for the power you.
36:10 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes you no longer that means that the power that that. and for the entire system is yours, it's not you're not paying as a fee for it.
36:27 Hillary Arinda: Hold them sorry. so you get a different basically only pay umeme now as if
36:39 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes, you only you only pay.
36:40 Hillary Arinda: okay
36:43 Aaron Tushabe: you only pay whatever small fraction you you pull from Omega but the system now belongs to you. multip on the other core business and continue buying their power from from another 2.5 System will belong to them and and they want me to to pay as much for power. That's why we have this option. for this
37:37 Dansturn Kimbowa: Um I I think I'm so done related to take you to the biggest boss. um I
37:44 Aaron Tushabe: Shall we start with the biggest entry start with that second?
37:49 Dansturn Kimbowa: You know we need the decision maker himself.
37:50 Aaron Tushabe: way up? Yeah, but generally I was seeing that I think whether it's finding attractive about these commercial over the residential is that yes money is dually but we get the return is is we begin immediately because the usage is already there and this residential. It's like one big customer. It's like having one. like one big internet like that you we have less meter clutter to deal with and yeah Two we were we were looking at good good margins on the monthly. In my mind, I thought like you know what if I have I could. power whether it is. This is 120 Mark that we essentially getting.
39:16 Aaron Tushabe: Where their numbers about 16 it's estimate was 16 at 120 a month the estimate is No, no, I mean the place in the second is there a place that could possibly in so it felt like something I could get get look for my own money and say like yeah, if I'm if I've invested 100 million and I'm getting 20% I am willing to sell some some unit trust somewhere that was only bringing in 10% and put in something like this.
39:58 Aaron Tushabe: No, no they I hope not and for me when you said you use the generator. It's when So I thought like a good. It looks like investment uh-huh.
40:10 Hillary Arinda: question how do we deal with the With the pix what inverter are we opting for?
40:23 Aaron Tushabe: These things seem to believe 50 kilowatt inverter existed. Does it?
40:31 Hillary Arinda: ya it should
40:33 Aaron Tushabe: But sometimes that 200 kVA is not enough for the for the event so you bring one kilowatts, but yeah, yeah it estimate at 50 kilowatt hours. I think what I would would be helpful is to get a reviewing agent to look at some of these numbers I can send send you more details today and you see yeah you run them through. see if the numbers are adding up.
41:07 Hillary Arinda: okay
41:08 Aaron Tushabe: But I think would be properly validate this on first one.
41:08 Hillary Arinda: okay, I would need to know the
41:13 Aaron Tushabe: Because phase one would give us like more granular data.
41:14 Hillary Arinda: okay Yeah, we will need it my only concern is on the peak on the deepik demand if we can meet a big demand then this model is.
41:25 Aaron Tushabe: hmm
41:29 Hillary Arinda: It looks solid yeah.
41:33 Aaron Tushabe: What can we use that? How is that generator because we we have a gener. install their generator installed there that seems to work.
41:45 Hillary Arinda: What's the capacity of the generator?
41:50 Dansturn Kimbowa: VM the one who installed that one
41:51 Hillary Arinda: Oliver 200kva versus 50kw that's a big diff
41:58 Aaron Tushabe: Eh, that's a big deal.
42:02 Hillary Arinda: That's my only concern meanwhile in all these.
42:03 Aaron Tushabe: But yeah, we also don't know yeah the how did you get to 200 kVA 7.
42:11 Dansturn Kimbowa: we whatever we recalculated the design the design load of the of
42:23 Aaron Tushabe: What like you are like this many light?
42:24 Hillary Arinda: 800kva you literally put the whole transform of a village.
42:30 Dansturn Kimbowa: It's a big building.
42:33 Hillary Arinda: Hey, but it's only eternity or you meter can't be then.
42:34 Aaron Tushabe: it is a Yes, yes, I think that's interesting thing that it is on a year.
42:41 Hillary Arinda: Dunstan
42:42 Dansturn Kimbowa: it's
42:44 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, but still you okay va.
42:50 Dansturn Kimbowa: I'm not sure of the meter. I haven't tried it looked at it.
42:58 Hillary Arinda: It's 10.2.
43:00 Aaron Tushabe: Yes.
43:03 Hillary Arinda: at cityu
43:03 Dansturn Kimbowa: 10.2 is what?
43:04 Aaron Tushabe: What would they put a thing at 10.2 on I think that is above 100 amps?
43:16 Hillary Arinda: Pathé are you sure then stand then? How come you need to you?
43:22 Dansturn Kimbowa: But it's above aunty to you. They have said a do you think 100 amps.
43:27 Aaron Tushabe: That's what that the command the commercials.
43:27 Hillary Arinda: hmm perfect Otherwise the otherwise remember would be making losses and the meter. burn.
43:40 Dansturn Kimbowa: no
43:41 Aaron Tushabe: Am I saying is it possible you're getting build like this, but your consumption is actually more like this.
43:52 Dansturn Kimbowa: You see how can I explain it? You see the church demand Curve is very unique.
43:58 Hillary Arinda: tell us
44:03 Dansturn Kimbowa: It it goes up but because look there's no there's no match activity during the week. The activity is Friday night. And Sunday the whole that is the seven to around 6 a.m. I mean seven to
44:20 Hillary Arinda: the whole bit
44:27 Dansturn Kimbowa: mmm Yeah, so and those days. I'm very sure every Sunday they use a generator they don't use women.
44:43 Hillary Arinda: hey
44:44 Dansturn Kimbowa: The all those have women power they have women.
44:45 Hillary Arinda: umem Is Not Enough Oh okay.
44:51 Aaron Tushabe: Oh and you you just don't you have an auto switch that would.
44:52 Dansturn Kimbowa: it goes up. There's a delay, there's a time delay.
44:58 Hillary Arinda: It cannot be less than 10 milliseconds.
45:00 Aaron Tushabe: and then then that's the angle I should pitch you from because like really like
45:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: every Sunday liters operational costs
45:19 Aaron Tushabe: and that might
45:19 Hillary Arinda: Until it is how much diesel litres of this is how much?
45:20 Dansturn Kimbowa: every Sunday I didn't like
45:25 Aaron Tushabe: Expensive than that.
45:27 Dansturn Kimbowa: five diamond five thousand five
45:30 Aaron Tushabe: So that's that is why I think we should go after a customer like this the other
45:31 Dansturn Kimbowa: over six key okay Yeah about 600.
45:41 Aaron Tushabe: Multiply that by four standards every month is about 2.5 m.
45:46 Hillary Arinda: mmm okay
45:49 Dansturn Kimbowa: Mmm and that's that's sand is there other days when? Saturday just know we never use for anything serious.
46:00 Aaron Tushabe: point is that yeah? This is when it has felt more more really like Nancy being because not
46:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: Whenever anything serious eh, if there's a wedding you put in put in the generator if there is the pastors meeting pastors training you put on a generator. What's the
46:21 Hillary Arinda: Any function basically?
46:25 Aaron Tushabe: It's people are paying like five more per month in all of their women
46:25 Dansturn Kimbowa: elephant
46:31 Aaron Tushabe: don't wait for power to go off. They they have a serious thing going on they turn on the generate.
46:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: 2.5 bar 2.5 miles on the lower end it may be like double.
46:46 Aaron Tushabe: be like this. They clear Focus I guess is one expanding to other areas and they dance turn away because I think I would want to also measure when the generator is running so we need to find a place to place that meter where it measures Generator power or memory power do you think that place exists?
47:11 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, there's a poll. I will be none of it that mean.
47:20 Aaron Tushabe: receive power from after that?
47:21 Dansturn Kimbowa: until after the changeover After the changeover you but both can't run at the same time. no, they
47:36 Aaron Tushabe: you said when we have that you we bring more generators. I thought it's because women is not strong enough so you add but it sounds like you just switch off Run yeah, um
47:51 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yeah, we set your memory we switch your phone memory. any event.
47:59 Aaron Tushabe: and even
48:00 Dansturn Kimbowa: a no, so
48:07 Aaron Tushabe: of net
48:08 Hillary Arinda: it has to be
48:09 Dansturn Kimbowa: It it could be an it's enough, but because the 200k 200 kVA is already. Kind of installed, why do we bring another Generator by the way?
48:24 Hillary Arinda: That's a good question. I think it does a good answer.
48:27 Aaron Tushabe: about seven months every month. generators abroad.
48:33 Dansturn Kimbowa: Even there wasn't there was a thing last whatever when I couldn't attend the meeting. I was the guy in charge of the facilities team. They were too generators running on cycle. hmm
48:47 Hillary Arinda: I think we
48:48 Dansturn Kimbowa: I'm very this is now I am really giving you inside the information like I am the
48:51 Hillary Arinda: So the is there a part that is not connected to the main generator. Could that
48:53 Dansturn Kimbowa: girl.
48:55 Hillary Arinda: be one of the reasons?
48:55 Aaron Tushabe: Maybe it's because of the there's like a section.
48:57 Dansturn Kimbowa: So so they are but we could still connect it to the main generator. You know we could still get socket.
49:04 Hillary Arinda: Who queue up?
49:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, but then now I understand now. I understand. main generator has already fixed infrastructure. Like the cable is already laid the change of a switch now. There is no provision. For us to pick because idea it will be picking from a socket.
49:34 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes.
49:34 Hillary Arinda: I don't then.
49:35 Dansturn Kimbowa: To feed these other things. That idea they will be picking from a socket to feed these other things. But the sockets of course have limitations of 13 amps. So if you put these other LED Screens and what you would you would kind of like you would kind of need temporary infrastructure that is not already there like so we put a big attent outside to cater for the overflow.
50:11 Dansturn Kimbowa: So you see in that field? There's a field down. There's a filled up. Yes.
50:17 Aaron Tushabe: Spiking this is parking no. Don't understand this this is parking correct.
50:26 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, that's the roof. That's the roof of
50:33 Aaron Tushabe: Ok, this is parking.
50:35 Dansturn Kimbowa: That is packing but now but up in that green area the Green area.
50:36 Aaron Tushabe: during this week. Let's find some time at night and and harm other numbers again this
50:44 Dansturn Kimbowa: There we put a tent there.
50:46 Aaron Tushabe: a
50:47 Dansturn Kimbowa: And we put kind of like a whole we put LED screens we put speakers some hoofers and then down you go down. There's a brownish thing down. No don't. A field as if I feel down.
51:07 Aaron Tushabe: he said
51:07 Dansturn Kimbowa: There now also there we put a tent and people sit there. So we need to supply that brown thing patch down and then the green patch up.
51:24 Aaron Tushabe: Okay okay, I will need a maybe this is first three this can be stripped what
51:27 Dansturn Kimbowa: so we'll put
51:30 Aaron Tushabe: your purpose we think about. How do we supply these extended areas? How do we yeah? Give them? Give them whatever because mmm but again all of these you could have extended umeme power there, but we have learned. It is not reliable we are being serious. But if there's an event going on we don't risk it.
52:01 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, no, no, you can't you?
52:03 Aaron Tushabe: okay
52:06 Dansturn Kimbowa: or that.
52:11 Aaron Tushabe: but
52:11 Hillary Arinda: share
52:14 Aaron Tushabe: So guys this this is where my my high level proposal is that you look at this model called put some holes in it and then next step is rest after the rigorous review by mrinda and the AI agents we present something too to actually pavistan. We see we see where we go from there. I like this customer better than palmarina. One because it is a single we we know that it's a single individ entity we're dealing with and they are credit wideness. Is is trackable for palmarina we couldn't but that the risks the investment for for nfe but leaves.
53:14 Aaron Tushabe: to also like bring on a banking finance partner rather than bootstrapping the entire 120 mark on our own. additional math. I did was that what is the minimum size that will make business sense and these things seem to recommend that really anyone over 2 megawatt hours per month if it's a school. It it would make similar business sense. Yeah, but anything over to to megawatt hours a month could make make business sense to investing yeah and also to recognize that these are essentially long-term assets where we are putting money in that we are we are essentially committing to operate these things for the You've got the meter rules their rules as in like rules.
54:26 Aaron Tushabe: So and not that we think we shall live nasana in a few years, but we got my that it was a pilot. There was always a plan of this is what exit looks like and similarly to this we need to give a customer like this what they are a quarter exit plan looks like but ideally. This will this these are things we will be investing in a long time. It looks like there is something for sure.
55:13 Hillary Arinda: critical business
55:14 Aaron Tushabe: Maybe this is how the Nigerian also use their generators like yeah, they just
55:28 Hillary Arinda: But then you decide is not serious money.
55:32 Aaron Tushabe: Man, but they don't seem to and I think and government run business is going to have a lot more people who can't afford generators that they they're like here. we actually
55:53 Hillary Arinda: I think there Focus is on fire user as a industrial parks. And now that Uganda is going through a serious revolution. I don't think they mind.
56:05 Aaron Tushabe: Take care about about the consider this a small code 10 code 10 user.
56:13 Hillary Arinda: This is insignificant for them.
56:16 Aaron Tushabe: well, this this is going to be a these are going to
56:23 Hillary Arinda: up
56:28 Dansturn Kimbowa: I won I haven't looked into the of course the engineering numbers. I'm hoping those I've tried to be on the side of worship harvest because I know those are the questions that they will ask.
56:39 Aaron Tushabe: Good, yeah.
56:41 Dansturn Kimbowa: And then I'll look into those may probably. Then what is in it for nft? I've also not are we are we making money you say it
56:52 Aaron Tushabe: We are yes the conservative.
56:54 Dansturn Kimbowa: to me on fire.
56:55 Hillary Arinda: 55 percent this are very juicy numbers just too good. That's the 55.
57:02 Aaron Tushabe: that's really the conservative estimate is that we are looking at on an No the conference.
57:13 Dansturn Kimbowa: good mmm
57:20 Aaron Tushabe: Then we are good.
57:20 Dansturn Kimbowa: Actually to make 20% like 14% and you said that's conservative.
57:26 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, it's it's conservative because I have thrown him there. We need to save every
57:36 Dansturn Kimbowa: first 282 faster that again man
57:42 Aaron Tushabe: It's conservative because I have we have thrown some expensive.
57:45 Dansturn Kimbowa: 20% is conservative.
57:48 Aaron Tushabe: Yes conservative because I am confident I feel like the battery qualities have gotten good that we can get more than just 15 years out of them.
57:59 Dansturn Kimbowa: This is like the gospel. It's so good. It's too good to be true man.
58:01 Aaron Tushabe: But the plan is that we save up enough money so that we can replace. batteries in about 15 years. It is lit like no but guys pick that the way this had also come up with the like a workshop plan on how to assemble that thing sunshine. to like review that. business feasible when someone paid for land whether they are living it or what we are getting you to an agreement with customers here where we don't perform real estate. We don't pay for security because we are fined locations that are already secure and have roof space.
58:49 Aaron Tushabe: And as far as at least this year the government hasn't yet started taxing sunshine. So we are also getting free sunshine those are the entire magic of the business. thing with the workshop yeah, when if we should get into challenges, where customer feels like my roof. I should I should you know you. we begin chewing into our margins when the government begins taxing sunshine because they are coming we know they're coming guys.
59:27 Aaron Tushabe: it will also eat a bit into our margins and we might get closer to emergence at that point. but they attempted to come up with something and how to flash their bodened, but
59:43 Dansturn Kimbowa: I'm making a phone call now.
59:44 Aaron Tushabe: using tools that I'm not familiar with.
59:50 Hillary Arinda: mmm
59:52 Aaron Tushabe: you you crunch the numbers again Dunstan when you're here on Sunday really
59:53 Hillary Arinda: okay okay
59:56 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay
01:00:04 Aaron Tushabe: and then we target that when you get back from China we we can sit with with someone and pitch so that before October ends if we have a go ahead. requires option of six channel in a gimeter expansion board yeah, so this this Yeah, really, it would be ideal if we deploy deploy phase 1.
01:00:23 Dansturn Kimbowa: I will I I think I will I think I head to make sure that. I will I will pull all the strings I can.
01:00:37 Aaron Tushabe: Okay, but I think that that is the today's meeting guys. I am late for Bible
01:00:39 Dansturn Kimbowa: hmm
01:00:45 Aaron Tushabe: study. Let me see what else did I have on the agenda? golds for this conference I had done some.
01:01:02 Hillary Arinda: when we come Let me tell Papa sorry.
01:01:09 Aaron Tushabe: What should we aim to get out of this conference guys?
01:01:17 Hillary Arinda: One we should have a good. eagle by detaching A good understanding of a whole architecture and of course and feasibility and very very importantly.
01:01:39 Hillary Arinda: I'm looking for the word. What do you call that word the one that? you in B is certification? for me that's the biggest if
01:01:50 Aaron Tushabe: the certification
01:01:51 Hillary Arinda: If we can get this thing certified to be used as a metering or meteorological device in the country approved by unbs. That's the end game.
01:02:06 Aaron Tushabe: Okay okay that I like that. What does the path to to certifying this thing?
01:02:09 Hillary Arinda: yeah
01:02:15 Aaron Tushabe: like?
01:02:17 Dansturn Kimbowa: Arinda, how do we get to that from the conference?
01:02:22 Hillary Arinda: That's a good question. No you're with experts you're with entry. basically in the whole of when you assembling all this you're like guys. We are not just going to install these things in our grid without certification. Have a certified products before what does that journey look like things like that the nuna and nona end it easy to go to NBS and ask. I have what they call meter rules I can share with you meter rules and then.
01:02:53 Hillary Arinda: look at what emitter should look like for you to be certified by unbs. Yeah, I'll share the meter rules then we can share them with. have a look. Does that answer your question?
01:03:09 Dansturn Kimbowa: Yes, it does.
01:03:09 Hillary Arinda: okay Mita rules actually you can even Google there first Google meter rules unbs it should be a publicly available document. I think well should it be maybe? You have to add unbs. check meter rules PDF driving dnv PDF nothing
01:03:57 Aaron Tushabe: It's unmeasures electricity.
01:03:58 Hillary Arinda: That's it. That's the one.
01:04:00 Aaron Tushabe: 2015
01:04:10 Hillary Arinda: There's no there's nothing.
01:04:14 Aaron Tushabe: As I found it download.
01:04:25 Hillary Arinda: You can also share it on element. I'll get it from there. I've not read it in a while. We are recording this meeting okay good you will also upload the whole transcripted in the agent will pick it up nicely.
01:05:00 Aaron Tushabe: I'll put it on the like books doc minutes like I've been posting but I can yeah
01:05:04 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:05:05 Aaron Tushabe: also just give you that a road transcript okay, so yeah okay. Any other goal that stands out? I think I also like just have him one Solid One
01:05:19 Aaron Tushabe: I think I had like financial goals of like. But I think let's lead with that the finances will follow. Let's let's get that out of the
01:05:29 Hillary Arinda: first talk about the finances a little bit
01:05:33 Aaron Tushabe: I was trying to be like are there funders we need to connect with and and make a case too that can can give us money but I
01:05:44 Hillary Arinda: I think I take even
01:05:49 Aaron Tushabe: That's distinct to look at the list of people who are there, but I think. But yeah, it seemed to be saying that this meeting is going to have more technical people that we shouldn't immediately go for money.
01:06:10 Dansturn Kimbowa: ship of this ship of
01:06:10 Hillary Arinda: no conference
01:06:13 Dansturn Kimbowa: Sodium still looked into actually okay technical people.
01:06:18 Aaron Tushabe: the conference the conference
01:06:20 Hillary Arinda: One last one before we go on the software in the I'm interested in that open a my because I had that it handles dlms as well as open Ami I would want to know the deeper technical. infrastructure or architecture that and how we can How we can see it. oh
01:06:50 Aaron Tushabe: I would recommend that you review this thing.
01:06:55 Hillary Arinda: mmm
01:06:56 Aaron Tushabe: the Battery was add shared a thing by energy iot but I put it.
01:07:06 Hillary Arinda: Yeah, yeah, then wait. What did the thing by the one they opensourced? Or something else.
01:07:13 Aaron Tushabe: And no now, there's several things there now okay. No the these energy iot guys that the module with meters and they included the software part and I wanted you
01:07:34 Hillary Arinda: okay okay good
01:07:35 Aaron Tushabe: But I think a very remembered was the one element somewhere I am not. Not sure what did I put it in general? yeah, I may look for return send it but yeah, they
01:08:02 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:08:03 Aaron Tushabe: Deserved in their report let me just go to the club.
01:08:53 Hillary Arinda: oops
01:08:57 Aaron Tushabe: International Yes.
01:09:16 Hillary Arinda: I'm ready.
01:09:17 Aaron Tushabe: look look at this with section the Attempt like it it's not as probably want to be as Terrace Glens walk through yeah, the software gotten very low level that I was not clicking. They were The software so this is Glenn's boy.
01:09:51 Hillary Arinda: okay
01:09:54 Aaron Tushabe: Yeah, sorry. Turned like walk through the whole step of now add this component.
01:10:25 Aaron Tushabe: flashing firmware So, this is I think there if we charging thing then this. might be the the report. I don't know why we need this gateway but Yeah, this this might be so check out this.
01:10:54 Hillary Arinda: Okay okay, could you post that somewhere then? I'll just pick it from there.
01:11:13 Aaron Tushabe: only today
01:11:14 Hillary Arinda: okay asante
01:11:22 Aaron Tushabe: I would send out the meeting minutes before in like an hour. Let me first go and catch up with bible study with this man.
01:11:29 Hillary Arinda: okay, please
01:11:31 Aaron Tushabe: Kylie gentlemen, thank you for your time, Mr timbo. I want to track to travel.
01:11:40 Dansturn Kimbowa: This much is busy making sure that we are going to travel today.
01:11:45 Aaron Tushabe: To you what I don't know people all you need is a passport all other things. don't let them hold you back you want to try your
01:11:53 Dansturn Kimbowa: No, no, we are we on track don't even worry about it.
01:11:58 Aaron Tushabe: other thing
01:11:59 Dansturn Kimbowa: He will be setting off at 6 p.m.
01:12:03 Aaron Tushabe: okay
01:12:04 Dansturn Kimbowa: I need to call mochadas, so that I get the things.
01:12:09 Aaron Tushabe: When I thank you very much for carrying those things and much I like to be very vigilant also.
01:12:15 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay yeah, we are we are we are also set.
01:12:19 Aaron Tushabe: Accept see you soon.
01:12:20 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay see you.
01:12:22 Aaron Tushabe: Thank you shall find us those tomorrow morning.
01:12:26 Dansturn Kimbowa: okay when you get to Nairobi what do we so when you get of text you I don't but do it when we get to the bus.
01:12:38 Aaron Tushabe: Let me find out actually because let me find out here.
01:12:42 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay because if we need an uber you can just send us a pin. Are you? Where are
01:12:43 Aaron Tushabe: here.
01:12:47 Dansturn Kimbowa: you now? Are you in the premise or you have been?
01:12:51 Aaron Tushabe: I haven't yet arrived them at a base the thing our hotel rooms won't be ready till tomorrow. Well, at least that's what I put in there form. So yeah tomorrow. So yeah, I
01:13:04 Aaron Tushabe: updates I'll also come from here and yeah.
01:13:05 Dansturn Kimbowa: Okay, is it full is it cold should you carry a lot of work?
01:13:10 Aaron Tushabe: Yes, yes, it is called one. It's called these guys are saying it. is called. apparently it was
  